Re: [sage-devel] problems with Bessel functions

2009-12-08 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Dec 8, 2009, at 9:47 PM, Mike Hansen wrote: > Hello, > > On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Nick Alexander > wrote: >> Implementing a particular symbolic function is not outlandishly >> difficult, thanks to the tireless work of Burcin Erocal and Mike >> Hansen. (Apologies to any contributers

Re: [sage-devel] problems with Bessel functions

2009-12-08 Thread Mike Hansen
Hello, On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Nick Alexander wrote: > Implementing a particular symbolic function is not outlandishly > difficult, thanks to the tireless work of Burcin Erocal and Mike > Hansen.  (Apologies to any contributers I have forgotten.) > > You need to subclass sage.symbolic.fu

Re: [sage-devel] problems with Bessel functions

2009-12-08 Thread Nick Alexander
On 8-Dec-09, at 8:59 PM, Dan Drake wrote: > On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 at 10:44PM -0300, Pablo De Napoli wrote: >> I'm trying to do some computations with Bessel functions using Sage. >> Unfortunately, they don't seem to behave like other functions. For >> example: >> to get the plot of the sine funct

Re: [sage-devel] problems with Bessel functions

2009-12-08 Thread Dan Drake
On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 at 10:44PM -0300, Pablo De Napoli wrote: > I'm trying to do some computations with Bessel functions using Sage. > Unfortunately, they don't seem to behave like other functions. For example: > to get the plot of the sine function over the interval (0,100) > > plot(sin(x),(x,0,1

Re: [sage-devel] STL support (3d Printing!)

2009-12-08 Thread Christopher Olah
Greetings! I had the first successful print of something created in sage. It was a sphere (radius = 3) and it revealed a small problem: physical size is proportional to size in sage. The sphere printed with a radius of ~ 1 cm. I intend to fix this. We're about to print a much larger cylinder...

Re: [sage-devel] Implementation of Graphs, c_graphs, and NetworkX

2009-12-08 Thread Robert Miller
I have posted the relevant code here: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/7634 -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://group

[sage-devel] problems with Bessel functions

2009-12-08 Thread Pablo De Napoli
Hi I'm trying to do some computations with Bessel functions using Sage. Unfortunately, they don't seem to behave like other functions. For example: to get the plot of the sine function over the interval (0,100) plot(sin(x),(x,0,100)) works. However, plot(bessel_J(0,x),(x,0,100)) does not. Giv

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Mathematical Software and Me: A Very Personal Recollection

2009-12-08 Thread francesco biscani
Very inspiring, thanks for sharing. Francesco. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: h

Re: [sage-devel] Implementation of Graphs, c_graphs, and NetworkX

2009-12-08 Thread Robert Miller
>>> In the end : What is going on with the C graphs in Sage, can we >>> expect >>> them to eb available soon ? > > You can use them right now. They're just not as feature full. Actually, that's no longer true. As of the closing of #6085, they are just as full of features as NX-based Sage graphs. T

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Implementation of Graphs, c_graphs, and NetworkX

2009-12-08 Thread Robert Miller
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Nathann Cohen wrote: > Hmmm... If we can make Sage's C graphs as fast as NetworkX's , I > assure you it will be very hard for them to compete with LP on our > side and so many features around in Sage... As most of NetworkX's > functions are not very hard to rewrite

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Use test "$1" && test "$2" and NOT test "$1" -a "$2"

2009-12-08 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
John H Palmieri wrote: > On Dec 8, 3:12 pm, Minh Nguyen wrote: >> Hi David, >> >> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Dr. David Kirkby >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Yes, I'll do that. I wont promise when, as I am a bit busy now. Many of >>> these >>> things can be found in documents on the web, but it

[sage-devel] graph theory tickets needing review

2009-12-08 Thread William Stein
Hi, If you look at this list of tickets needing review here: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/report/30 you'll see that there are now 84 (down from 110 yesterday). The notebook component had a bunch needing review, since I had been lax, but now it has none that *can be* reviewed right no

Re: [sage-devel] Build failure on Mac OS X 10.5.8

2009-12-08 Thread Harald Hanche-Olsen
Er, never mind, I had looked into the makefile and gotten the impression I needed to set DESTDIR to some suitable value. If I don't do that, the build seems to proceed without trouble. (I get the impression I am not supposed to install this thing at all, but just run it from the source directory?)

[sage-devel] Re: Use test "$1" && test "$2" and NOT test "$1" -a "$2"

2009-12-08 Thread John H Palmieri
On Dec 8, 3:12 pm, Minh Nguyen wrote: > Hi David, > > On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Dr. David Kirkby > > wrote: > > > > > Yes, I'll do that. I wont promise when, as I am a bit busy now. Many of > > these > > things can be found in documents on the web, but it would no doubt help to > > have

[sage-devel] Build failure on Mac OS X 10.5.8

2009-12-08 Thread Harald Hanche-Olsen
Trying to build sage 4.2.1 on Mac OS X 10.5.8 ended in this error message: ( cd examples ; make DESTDIR=/local/pkg/sage_4.2.1 install ) /bin/sh ../support/mkdirs /local/pkg/sage_4.2.1/local/src/sage/sage-4.2.1/local/share/readline mkdir /local/pkg/sage_4.2.1/local/src/sage/sage-4.2.1/local/share

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Use test "$1" && test "$2" and NOT test "$1" -a "$2"

2009-12-08 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi David, On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > Yes, I'll do that. I wont promise when, as I am a bit busy now. Many of these > things can be found in documents on the web, but it would no doubt help to > have > them in the developer guide, particularly those related to S

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Use test "$1" && test "$2" and NOT test "$1" -a "$2"

2009-12-08 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
kcrisman wrote: > Dear Dave, > > I think you have a lot of really good ideas about portability. > However, my fear is that there are so many scripts out there, and > people without your knowledge won't have a place to go. > > Would you be willing to write something for the developer guide that >

[sage-devel] http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/7514

2009-12-08 Thread William Stein
Hi, This patch: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/7514 is pretty important and really needs review. It's a much needed rewrite and refactoring of load/attach, it will bitrot, and it was a full days work. And I can't referee it since I wrote it. It makes load/attach vastly more systema

[sage-devel] Re: Review some tickets

2009-12-08 Thread kcrisman
Here's another fairly easy one, assuming it hasn't bitrotted - it's long, but it's all the same kind of thing. http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6522 - kcrisman On Dec 8, 5:45 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: > William Stein wrote: > > Hi, > > > There are now 110 tickets that need review.

[sage-devel] Re: Use test "$1" && test "$2" and NOT test "$1" -a "$2"

2009-12-08 Thread kcrisman
Dear Dave, I think you have a lot of really good ideas about portability. However, my fear is that there are so many scripts out there, and people without your knowledge won't have a place to go. Would you be willing to write something for the developer guide that has ALL your recommendations on

[sage-devel] Use test "$1" && test "$2" and NOT test "$1" -a "$2"

2009-12-08 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Many scripts have in them something like if [ $SAGE64 = "yes" -a $UNAME = "Darwin" ] ; then some code fi Where the '-a' means 'AND'. The use of the '-a' option is deprecated by both by the 2004 http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/utilities/test.html and 2008 http://www.opengroup.or

[sage-devel] Re: matrix.elementary_divisors() inconsistency

2009-12-08 Thread daveloeffler
Oh, no, not this one again! I overhauled the elementary divisors code a while ago and I thought I had sorted out this one. Personally I feel that M.elementary_divisors() should always return a list of size min (M.nrows(), M.ncols()), which should also be the size of the square matrix output by M.sm

[sage-devel] How should ConstructionFunctors be composed?

2009-12-08 Thread Simon King
Hi! I am currently overhauling the code for Infinite Polynomial Rings, trying to introduce construction functors for it. At this occasion, I found that the composition of ConstructionFunctors is broken. Namely, for construction functors F1 and F2, there are two conventions of what F1*F2 should d

[sage-devel] matrix.elementary_divisors() inconsistency

2009-12-08 Thread Harald Schilly
Hello, from the "report a problem" link I got the complaint that elementary_divisors() is wrong. It turned out that it behaves differently with respect to the matrix's ring. I guess it's one of those left/right issues. Examples: sage: M = random_matrix(ZZ, 5,3) sage: M.elementary_divisors() [1, 1

[sage-devel] Re: Mathematical Software and Me: A Very Personal Recollection

2009-12-08 Thread cool-RR
Very interesting read! On Dec 7, 10:30 pm, William Stein wrote: > Hi, > > Paul Zimmermann asked me for a "brief history of Sage" to help inform > a talk he is going to give about Sage.  I sat down to write such a > thing and instead ended up writing a long 16 page account of my > involvement in m

Re: [sage-devel] Review some tickets

2009-12-08 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: > Hi, > > There are now 110 tickets that need review. See > > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/report/30 > > for a nice list sorted by component. If you have some time and know > how to referee tickets, please referee one. > > -- William > The following ticket