[sage-devel] Re: Fine-grained verbosity

On Oct 29, 2009, at 11:24 PM, Kwankyu Lee wrote: > Hi, > > verbose() may be quite useful for user programs, but it seems right > now only oriented for developers. If I place some verbose("...", > level=1) statements in my Sage program, and the verbose level is set > to 1 by set_verbose(1), then t

[sage-devel] Fine-grained verbosity

Hi, verbose() may be quite useful for user programs, but it seems right now only oriented for developers. If I place some verbose("...", level=1) statements in my Sage program, and the verbose level is set to 1 by set_verbose(1), then the verbose statements of internal Sage functions are printed,

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-support] Sage 4.2 Lightweight LiveCD is ready to download.

Hi Lucio, On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Lucio Lastra wrote: > Hi all, > > you can download Sage 4.2 Liveweight LiveCD at: > > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/luciolastra/sagelwlcd/latest/ Thank you very much for this. I have updated the SageMath Facebook and twitter pages to provide the

[sage-devel] Re: What directories should go into a binary distribution?

Hi David, On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:12 AM, William Stein wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Dr. David Kirkby > wrote: > Just do > > ./sage -bdist 4.2-description_of_computer > > Then the directory SAGE_ROOT/dist/ will contain the resulting binary. > The spkg files are replaced by

[sage-devel] Re: R.variable_names() or R.generator_names() ??

I think "generator_names()" is a universal name for all structures, and "variable_names" should be an alias of that only for polynomial rings. I understand William's concerns, but I think there should an official mechanism to change an inappropriate nomination with what makes sense as soon as it

[sage-devel] simplification of expressions

I'm working with someone in a college algebra. They were temporarily confused when they typed: 2/(x+2) and the worksheet printed back out (in Typeset mode) the equivalent of: 2 (1/(x+2)) Is there a reason the 2 was pulled off the top of the fraction? Does it have to be? I know it's silly,

[sage-devel] Re: PPA for Sage in Ubuntu

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Tim Abbott wrote: > > I think that this PPA plan is pretty reasonable idea; if you're > targeting just Ubuntu, then it will likely be less work than setting > up your own apt repository (I'm happy to provide technical advice on > either route). > > I thought I'd c

[sage-devel] Re: PPA for Sage in Ubuntu

I think that this PPA plan is pretty reasonable idea; if you're targeting just Ubuntu, then it will likely be less work than setting up your own apt repository (I'm happy to provide technical advice on either route). I thought I'd clarify a few things about how PPAs work: (1) There is no technic

[sage-devel] A further update to the 'prereq' script.

I recently updated the code which checks for the prerequisites for Sage. http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/7021 Here's a further refinement http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/7352 which mainly addresses the issue of what operating systems are supported, and what are not. It iss

[sage-devel] Re: jsmath and jquery spkgs

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Tim Abbott wrote: > > I seem to recall that there was a plan many months ago to move jsmath and > jquery out of the extcode spkg into their own spkgs.  It looks like that > never happened (or perhaps unhappened) -- was there a problem with doing > so? > >

[sage-devel] jsmath and jquery spkgs

I seem to recall that there was a plan many months ago to move jsmath and jquery out of the extcode spkg into their own spkgs. It looks like that never happened (or perhaps unhappened) -- was there a problem with doing so? suggests that it was

[sage-devel] Re: sage-4.2, solved problems and 3 questions (for Ldap)

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Philippe Saade wrote: > > Hi > > I have the pleasure to work in an office close to that of Thierry and > we talked about the interest of using Kerberos as an authentication > mechanism at our University. > > Wouldn't it be nice for Sage to be "Kerberised" so peopl

[sage-devel] Re: sage-4.2, solved problems and 3 questions (for Ldap)

Hi I have the pleasure to work in an office close to that of Thierry and we talked about the interest of using Kerberos as an authentication mechanism at our University. Wouldn't it be nice for Sage to be "Kerberised" so people could very easily use a Kerberos server or an Active Directory Serve

[sage-devel] Re: What directories should go into a binary distribution?

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > I've set up a Sun Netra T1 with the first release of Solaris 10. I'm just in > the > process of building Sage 4.2, though since the machine is only 500 MHz, it is > going to take some time! > > I thought it would be sensible to create

[sage-devel] Re: trac component ownership

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Alex Ghitza wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:01:01PM -0700, William Stein wrote: >> >> The current list is: >> >>       algebra         tbd >>       algebraic geometry      was >>       algebraic topology      jhpalmieri >>       basic arithmetic        someb

[sage-devel] What directories should go into a binary distribution?

I've set up a Sun Netra T1 with the first release of Solaris 10. I'm just in the process of building Sage 4.2, though since the machine is only 500 MHz, it is going to take some time! I thought it would be sensible to create a binary and make that available, as the one on the downloads is rat

[sage-devel] Re: trac component ownership

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:01:01PM -0700, William Stein wrote: > > The current list is: > > algebra tbd > algebraic geometry was > algebraic topology jhpalmieri > basic arithmeticsomebody Hi, I can look after "algebra" a

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-support] Sage 4.2 Lightweight LiveCD is ready to download.

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Lucio Lastra wrote: > Hi all, > > you can download Sage 4.2 Liveweight LiveCD at: > > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/luciolastra/sagelwlcd/latest/ > > Any feedback is appreciated! > > Greetings, > > Lucio I'm very curious -- Could you make a version that i

[sage-devel] Re: Categories review: the last ones?

Dear David, [...] > For this reason, I don't think CategoryWithBasis (or more > generally CategoryWith[Free]Generators) is a natural > category -- unless the generators are structures intended > to be preserved, as is the case with a category of pointed > sets. As Nicolas already explained

[sage-devel] Sage 4.2 Lightweight LiveCD is ready to download.

Hi all, you can download Sage 4.2 Liveweight LiveCD at: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/luciolastra/sagelwlcd/latest/ Any feedback is appreciated! Greetings, Lucio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To

[sage-devel] Re: Unladen Swallow Relesae2009Q3

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 1:31 PM, javier wrote: > > Hi William, > > On Oct 29, 5:23 pm, William Stein wrote: >> I'll tell you what is "redundant or plainly stupid". > > Thanks! That's how I'll learn to do things properly! > >> Tar is smart enough that there is no need to change the extension. > >

[sage-devel] Re: Remove biopython-1.51

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 1:24 PM, mhampton wrote: > > It still shows up when I do "sage -optional", from a pretty recent > install of sage-4.2.  But maybe that list is stored locally, and is > out of date?  I confess I don't understand exactly how sage -optional > works. You're right. I reran t

[sage-devel] Re: Unladen Swallow Relesae2009Q3

Hi William, On Oct 29, 5:23 pm, William Stein wrote: > I'll tell you what is "redundant or plainly stupid". Thanks! That's how I'll learn to do things properly! > Tar is smart enough that there is no need to change the extension. Noted. > Just do > >     sage -pkg python-2.6.2.p4 > > (though

[sage-devel] Re: Remove biopython-1.51

It still shows up when I do "sage -optional", from a pretty recent install of sage-4.2. But maybe that list is stored locally, and is out of date? I confess I don't understand exactly how sage -optional works. -Marshall On Oct 29, 1:32 pm, William Stein wrote: > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:16

[sage-devel] Re: Remove biopython-1.51

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:16 PM, mhampton wrote: > > I'm not sure this deserves a trac ticket: since the optional biopython > package was upgraded to 1.52 there is no point to the existence of the > biopython-1.51 spkg in the optional repository.  Adam Webb did a nice > job improving the spkg, a

[sage-devel] Remove biopython-1.51

I'm not sure this deserves a trac ticket: since the optional biopython package was upgraded to 1.52 there is no point to the existence of the biopython-1.51 spkg in the optional repository. Adam Webb did a nice job improving the spkg, and biopython does a good job of maintaining backwards compati

[sage-devel] Re: trac component ownership

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:59 AM, kcrisman wrote: > > > >> >> What is the difference between "symbolics" and "calculus"? >> > > Calculus is actual calculus.  Symbolics is exposing symbolics of > Maxima, Pynac etc. to users in the rest of Sage.  So, for instance, R. > Marik's question about gettin

[sage-devel] Re: R.variable_names() or R.generator_names() ??

On Oct 29, 2009, at 10:24 AM, Jason Grout wrote: > William Stein wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:28 AM, Kwankyu Lee >> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> To get the names of generators of a polynomial ring R, I may use >>> R.variable_names(). >>> But it seems that the method at least does not fail for

[sage-devel] Re: sage-4.2.1

I'll review http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6479 On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:30 AM, William Stein wrote: > > Hi, > > There are only 29 tickets with posittive review, which isn't quite > enough to make a release: >      http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/report/11 > > Fortunately, there

[sage-devel] Re: trac component ownership

> > What is the difference between "symbolics" and "calculus"? > Calculus is actual calculus. Symbolics is exposing symbolics of Maxima, Pynac etc. to users in the rest of Sage. So, for instance, R. Marik's question about getting Maxima's "1#0" to turn into "1!=0" is a symbolics issue, and so

[sage-devel] Re: R.variable_names() or R.generator_names() ??

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Jason Grout wrote: > > William Stein wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:28 AM, Kwankyu Lee wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> To get the names of generators of a polynomial ring R, I may use >>> R.variable_names(). >>> But it seems that the method at least does not fail fo

[sage-devel] sage-4.2.1

Hi, There are only 29 tickets with posittive review, which isn't quite enough to make a release: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/report/11 Fortunately, there are 107 tickets right now that *need review*: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/report/10 So referee something, s

[sage-devel] Re: R.variable_names() or R.generator_names() ??

William Stein wrote: > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:28 AM, Kwankyu Lee wrote: >> Hi, >> >> To get the names of generators of a polynomial ring R, I may use >> R.variable_names(). >> But it seems that the method at least does not fail for other rings. >> For example, >> >> sage: GF(2).variable_names(

[sage-devel] Re: Unladen Swallow Relesae2009Q3

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:18 AM, javier wrote: > > Hi all! > > The guys from Unladen Swallow have unleashed the Q3 release: > http://code.google.com/p/unladen-swallow/wiki/Release2009Q3 > > I was a bit bored, so decided to give it a go with Sage 4.2, following > the suggestions in this thread: >

[sage-devel] Unladen Swallow Relesae2009Q3

Hi all! The guys from Unladen Swallow have unleashed the Q3 release: http://code.google.com/p/unladen-swallow/wiki/Release2009Q3 I was a bit bored, so decided to give it a go with Sage 4.2, following the suggestions in this thread: http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/4

[sage-devel] Re: R.variable_names() or R.generator_names() ??

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:28 AM, Kwankyu Lee wrote: > > Hi, > > To get the names of generators of a polynomial ring R, I may use > R.variable_names(). > But it seems that the method at least does not fail for other rings. > For example, > > sage: GF(2).variable_names() > ('x',) > > What is the in

[sage-devel] Re: sage-4.2, solved problems and 3 questions (for Ldap)

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 3:14 AM, Tim Joseph Dumol wrote: > Hey, > > Are you making the changing the right files? The new sagenb should be in > /opt/sage-bin/local/lib/python/site-packages/sagenb, although development on > sagenb should be done by downloading and extracting latest spkg at > http:/

[sage-devel] Re: trac component ownership

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 7:42 AM, kcrisman wrote: > > While we're talking about components, can we add "symbolics" back? > I'm not sure whether I should own it (Burcin? before it was gfurnish, > which I assume is outdated now) but it would be very valuable to have > that as an option. > > As for m

[sage-devel] Re: trac component ownership

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:18 AM, mhampton wrote: > > I'm clearly the wrong person to "own" statistics.  I just created that > component to try to get it started, but I have neither the time nor > expertise to do any real coding or leading for it. I've changed the owner to Andrew Hou, since he's

[sage-devel] Re: trac component ownership

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 3:27 AM, David Joyner wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:56 AM, William Stein wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Here are the trac components with who "owns" each.  It's possible that many >> of these are dated/wrong/silly at this point.  If anybody would like to >> suggest changes, v

[sage-devel] Re: trac component ownership

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:49 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > William Stein wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Here are the trac components with who "owns" each.  It's possible that >> many of these are dated/wrong/silly at this point.  If anybody would >> like to suggest changes, volunteer to own a component,

[sage-devel] Re: Sgae 4.1.2, installation problem (R).

If I remember right, I was able to fix the problem on my install by using SAGE_FORTRAN=/usr/bin/gfortran; SAGE_FORTRAN_LIB=/usr/lib/libgfortran.so and rebuilding from scratch. Once fortran is removed from the Sage distribution, this problem should disappear. - Tim Joseph Dumol On Thu, Oct 29, 2

[sage-devel] Re: Categories review: the last ones?

Hi, Glad to hear that Javier took up the last category files. I don't have a strong opinion whether OrderedSets (or Monoids) should have total or partial ordering. However, since there is a possible ambiguity, my preference is to not use OrderedX as an alias for either PartiallyOrderedX or Total

[sage-devel] Re: trac component ownership

While we're talking about components, can we add "symbolics" back? I'm not sure whether I should own it (Burcin? before it was gfurnish, which I assume is outdated now) but it would be very valuable to have that as an option. As for meaning, at the least it should mean that that person gets an au

[sage-devel] Re: Sgae 4.1.2, installation problem (R).

Hello. There is a workaround explained here : http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/951e94279937dea7/b1ab8134575f30e2?lnk=gst&q=libstdc%2B%2B#b1ab8134575f30e2 Note this problem persists with Sage 4.2 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this

Re: [Ecls-list] [sage-devel] Maxima fails to build with ECL on Cygwin

I have found out that the function that acts as entry point in FASLs (compiled lisp files) was not exported by cygwin. That prevents LOAD from working. A quick fix has been uploaded, but I still do not know whether there are other issues left. Juanjo -- Instituto de Física Fundamental, CSIC c/

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: Categories review: the last ones?

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 02:33:04AM -0700, javier wrote: > > > > On Oct 29, 12:38 am, "Nicolas M. Thiery" > wrote: > > Again, that's just how it used to be. Do we have an agreement for > > having both: > > > >         PartiallyOrderedSets() > >         TotallyOrderedSets() > > > > I haven't Wik

[sage-devel] Re: trac component ownership

I'm clearly the wrong person to "own" statistics. I just created that component to try to get it started, but I have neither the time nor expertise to do any real coding or leading for it. -Marshall On Oct 29, 1:56 am, William Stein wrote: > Hi, > > Here are the trac components with who "owns"

[sage-devel] Re: trac component ownership

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 2:56 AM, William Stein wrote: > Hi, > > Here are the trac components with who "owns" each.  It's possible that many > of these are dated/wrong/silly at this point.  If anybody would like to > suggest changes, volunteer to own a component, etc., just respond in this > threa

[sage-devel] Is sage_scripts trying to copy a non-existent file?

I just noticed this when trying to build Sage 4.2 on a Sun Netra T1 running the first release of Solaris 10. Note there are two errors from the 'cp' command, which are not caught. Whether this in intended behavior or not I do not know. sage_scripts-4.2/sage-crap sage_scripts-4.2/sage-test-imp

[sage-devel] Re: sage-4.2, solved problems and 3 questions (for Ldap)

Hey, Are you making the changing the right files? The new sagenb should be in /opt/sage-bin/local/lib/python/site-packages/sagenb, although development on sagenb should be done by downloading and extracting latest spkg at http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/wstein/patches/sagenb/ and editing the

[sage-devel] R.variable_names() or R.generator_names() ??

Hi, To get the names of generators of a polynomial ring R, I may use R.variable_names(). But it seems that the method at least does not fail for other rings. For example, sage: GF(2).variable_names() ('x',) What is the intention? If variable_names() intends to return the names of generators, th

[sage-devel] sage-4.2, solved problems and 3 questions (for Ldap)

Hi, I have installed sage-4.2 and many problems disappeared :-) ( server_pool is working fine now...). BUT I have some questions: === -I want to adapt my ldap identification to the new notebook. As the notebook changed a lot, I must adapt my routines to it. To do this I want to "trace" different

[sage-devel] Re: trac component ownership

William Stein wrote: > Hi, > > Here are the trac components with who "owns" each. It's possible that > many of these are dated/wrong/silly at this point. If anybody would > like to suggest changes, volunteer to own a component, etc., just > respond in this thread.Don't ask me exactly wha

[sage-devel] Re: Maxima fails to build with ECL on Cygwin

One thing: I am not subscribed to sage-devel. Answers or questions which are not cc to me may get lost. Second, as I already told people in the ecls mailing list, I believe that Cygwin's dlopen is broken, but I have not had time to debug it. I already maintain two other windows ports: mingw and m

[sage-devel] Re: trac component ownership

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote: > > Hi William, > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 5:56 PM, William Stein wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Here are the trac components with who "owns" each. It's possible that > many > > of these are dated/wrong/silly at this point. If anybody would like to

[sage-devel] Re: trac component ownership

Hi William, On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 5:56 PM, William Stein wrote: > Hi, > > Here are the trac components with who "owns" each. It's possible that many > of these are dated/wrong/silly at this point. If anybody would like to > suggest changes, volunteer to own a component, etc., just respond in