[sage-devel] Re: cool things coming up in matplotlib

2009-08-01 Thread Jason Grout
Jason Grout wrote: > Recently there was a thread that dealt with having axes of 2d plots > cross at non-origin points. This is a "problem" (depending on who is > talking :) of the current Sage axis code. It appears that the next version of matplotlib supports an even easier way to have axes

[sage-devel] Re: Frequency of package updates?

2009-08-01 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Jason, On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Jason Grout wrote: > > Minh Nguyen wrote: > >> Here I speak from my experience in trying to (unsuccessfully) update >> the NetworkX spkg to version 0.99. Currently, Sage is shipped with >> NetworkX 0.36 and I have created ticket #6041 >> >> http://trac.sa

[sage-devel] Re: error reporting with symmetric functions

2009-08-01 Thread William Stein
I'm cc'ing this to sage-combinat-devel... I have nothing to add below, except that the interactive stuff is coming from the Symmetric library, I think. On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Jerome Lefebvre wrote: > > > Bizarre error reporting with symmetric functions; > > --

[sage-devel] Re: Frequency of package updates?

2009-08-01 Thread Jason Grout
Minh Nguyen wrote: > Here I speak from my experience in trying to (unsuccessfully) update > the NetworkX spkg to version 0.99. Currently, Sage is shipped with > NetworkX 0.36 and I have created ticket #6041 > > http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6041 > > in order to get NetworkX 0.99 int

[sage-devel] error reporting with symmetric functions

2009-08-01 Thread Jerome Lefebvre
Bizarre error reporting with symmetric functions; -- | Sage Version 4.1, Release Date: 2009-07-09 | | Type notebook() for the GUI, and license() for information.| -

[sage-devel] reviews for Sage 4.1.1.rc1

2009-08-01 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi folks, The Sage 4.1.1 release cycle is now in 4.1.1.rc1, which hasn't been released yet. As this release candidate is for stabilizing Sage and fixing bugs, I thought I should outline below a number of bug fixes which would be good to get into Sage 4.1.1. There are about 5 tickets relating to s

[sage-devel] Re: Frequency of package updates?

2009-08-01 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Simon, On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Simon King wrote: > > Dear Sage developers, > > I asked the following question in a mail to William Stein and David > Joyner, but William suggested the discussion should be in public. > > Yesterday my cohomology package became an optional spkg. But there

[sage-devel] Re: [Ecls-list] Solaris SPARC issues with Sun complier - location of gmp specified.

2009-08-01 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Dr. David > Kirkby wrote: >> Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Dr. David >>> Kirkby wrote: Following from my mail half an hour or so ago, here is what

[sage-devel] Re: status of FreeBSD 64-bit support

2009-08-01 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2009-Aug-01 20:22:09 +0100, Jason Moxham wrote: >>So are you saying that the compilers on T2 are broken in 64bit mode ? or just >>sage is broken ? or just mpir ? or dont we know? > > Sun development tools treat Solaris as "primarily a 32-bi

[sage-devel] Re: status of FreeBSD 64-bit support

2009-08-01 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2009-Aug-01 20:22:09 +0100, Jason Moxham wrote: >So are you saying that the compilers on T2 are broken in 64bit mode ? or just >sage is broken ? or just mpir ? or dont we know? Sun development tools treat Solaris as "primarily a 32-bit OS but you can build 64-bit applications if you jump thro

[sage-devel] Re: [Ecls-list] Solaris SPARC issues with Sun complier - location of gmp specified.

2009-08-01 Thread Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll wrote: >> >> On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Dr. David >> Kirkby wrote: >>> >>> Following from my mail half an hour or so ago, here is what happens on >>> t2 if the Sun compiler is used, but the location of the gmp

[sage-devel] Re: [Ecls-list] Solaris SPARC issues with Sun complier - location of gmp specified.

2009-08-01 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > Hi, > > I copied this to sage-devel too, as clearly ECL is important. (For > anyone else, this discussion started on ecls-l...@lists.sourceforge.net). > > Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll wrote: >> On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Dr. David >> Kir

[sage-devel] Re: Frequency of package updates?

2009-08-01 Thread David Joyner
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Simon King wrote: > > Dear Sage developers, > > I asked the following question in a mail to William Stein and David > Joyner, but William suggested the discussion should be in public. > > Yesterday my cohomology package became an optional spkg. But there are > a lot

[sage-devel] Re: [Ecls-list] Solaris SPARC issues (from latest CVS) - using Sun compiler.

2009-08-01 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll wrote: > On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 12:27 AM, Juan Jose > Garcia-Ripoll wrote: >> On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Juan Jose >> Garcia-Ripoll wrote: Actually, inside Sage, GMP is not used, but IMPR, which, if my understanding of it is correct, is a GPL2 version

[sage-devel] Re: [Ecls-list] Solaris SPARC issues with S un complier - location of gmp specified.

2009-08-01 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Hi, I copied this to sage-devel too, as clearly ECL is important. (For anyone else, this discussion started on ecls-l...@lists.sourceforge.net). Juan Jose Garcia-Ripoll wrote: > On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Dr. David > Kirkby wrote: >> Following from my mail half an hour or so ago, here is

[sage-devel] Re: evil spkgs?

2009-08-01 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Simon King wrote: > > Hi David, > > On 1 Aug., 23:55, David Joyner wrote: >> 1. Be very very careful about modifying existing Python or Cython >> files in the Sage devel tree. > > Is it really allowed for an SPKG to modify things in the Sage devel > tree? This high

[sage-devel] Frequency of package updates?

2009-08-01 Thread Simon King
Dear Sage developers, I asked the following question in a mail to William Stein and David Joyner, but William suggested the discussion should be in public. Yesterday my cohomology package became an optional spkg. But there are a lot of homological algebra constructions that aren't in, yet. Howev

[sage-devel] Re: evil spkgs?

2009-08-01 Thread Simon King
Hi David, On 1 Aug., 23:55, David Joyner wrote: > 1. Be very very careful about modifying existing Python or Cython > files in the Sage devel tree. Is it really allowed for an SPKG to modify things in the Sage devel tree? This highly surprises me. I thought that an SPKG is a package, and the wo

[sage-devel] Re: status of FreeBSD 64-bit support

2009-08-01 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Jason Moxham wrote: > > Hi > > So are you saying that the compilers on T2 are broken in 64bit mode ? or just > sage is broken ? or just mpir ? or dont we know? > > I remember testing ABI=32bit before and it passed , but as T2 is a 64bit > machine , I regarded this as not exactly what we want

[sage-devel] evil spkgs?

2009-08-01 Thread David Joyner
Hi: Playing around with the experimental 4ti2 package (which is not to be confused with Marshall Hampton's very recent 4ti2 spkg) *and* Nathann Cohen's GLPK spkg in the same version of Sage got me thinking about some issues. What is stopping people from (accidentally) causing havoc with their sp

[sage-devel] Re: GLPK - Vote for possible inclusion in Sage

2009-08-01 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Nathann Cohen wrote: > > H... There is still something I did not understand, sorry ;-) > > Coin-or/Cbc is meant to be an optional package, and if approved it > will stay this way : fine > GLPK should be a standard package, but as it is customary it will be > opt

[sage-devel] Re: GLPK - Vote for possible inclusion in Sage

2009-08-01 Thread Nathann Cohen
H... There is still something I did not understand, sorry ;-) Coin-or/Cbc is meant to be an optional package, and if approved it will stay this way : fine GLPK should be a standard package, but as it is customary it will be optional for a while ( and perhaps a bit more to let us think about l

[sage-devel] Re: sage-4.1, configure bug in mpir

2009-08-01 Thread Jason Moxham
Hi can post cat /proc/cpuinfo Did you build it with configure ABI=amd64 you should use configure ABI=64 or just configure as on a 64 bit system the 64 ABI is default Thanks Jason - Original Message - From: "timcera" To: "sage-devel" Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 7:17 PM Subjec

[sage-devel] sage-4.1, configure bug in mpir

2009-08-01 Thread timcera
Hello, Here are the relevant context and error messages... Host system uname -a: Linux wanderer2 2.6.29-gentoo-r5 #2 Sat Jul 4 00:31:03 EDT 2009 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux **

[sage-devel] Re: status of FreeBSD 64-bit support

2009-08-01 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Jason Moxham wrote: > > > Hi > > So are you saying that the compilers on T2 are broken in 64bit mode ? or just > sage is broken ? or just mpir ? or dont we know? Nobody has attempted to port Sage to 64-bit Solaris (well, since 2005 when we last tried). I don't th

[sage-devel] Re: status of FreeBSD 64-bit support

2009-08-01 Thread Jason Moxham
Hi So are you saying that the compilers on T2 are broken in 64bit mode ? or just sage is broken ? or just mpir ? or dont we know? I remember testing ABI=32bit before and it passed , but as T2 is a 64bit machine , I regarded this as not exactly what we want , we want 64bit goodness :) Than

[sage-devel] Re: multiplicative_order in finite fields

2009-08-01 Thread John Cremona
The function generic order_from_multple() does allow the information to be cached, and the function Victor referred to should use that. John 2009/7/31 VictorMiller : > > Simon, Thanks.  I think that in order for this to work, that finite > field should have a new method, something like > > @cach

[sage-devel] Re: GLPK - Vote for possible inclusion in Sage

2009-08-01 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 6:24 AM, David Joyner wrote: > > I think Nathann Cohen has done a very valuable service with the GLPK and > COIN-OR-related packages. > > That said, I have a "point of order" question. Is is true or false that the > process for a package to become standard we > (1) use trac

[sage-devel] Re: GLPK - Vote for possible inclusion in Sage

2009-08-01 Thread Jason Grout
Nathann Cohen wrote: > Got it ! > > I knew nothing about all this, sorry :-) > > I was just growing impatient because I only wrote the interface > between GLPK/Coin and Sage to add new functions to the Graph class, > whose docstrings I am currently writing... I already wrote : > > def min_domin

[sage-devel] Re: GLPK - Vote for possible inclusion in Sage

2009-08-01 Thread Nathann Cohen
Got it ! I knew nothing about all this, sorry :-) I was just growing impatient because I only wrote the interface between GLPK/Coin and Sage to add new functions to the Graph class, whose docstrings I am currently writing... I already wrote : def min_dominating_set(g, value_only=False): def min

Re: Fwd: [sage-devel] Re: Categories restart

2009-08-01 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
Dear David, dear category fans, We made some good progress on the review of the main category patch. Most of the (hopf) algebra categories were reviewed by Florent Hivert, and the semigroup/monoid ones by Franco Saliola. See the progress report on: http://sagetrac.org/sage_trac/wiki/Cate

[sage-devel] Re: GLPK - Vote for possible inclusion in Sage

2009-08-01 Thread David Joyner
I think Nathann Cohen has done a very valuable service with the GLPK and COIN-OR-related packages. That said, I have a "point of order" question. Is is true or false that the process for a package to become standard we (1) use trac to do nomination, testing, and acceptance as an optional package,

[sage-devel] Re: GLPK - Vote for possible inclusion in Sage

2009-08-01 Thread Robert
I'd like LPs, too, of course. By the way, do you know of the project http://pymprog.sourceforge.net/ that wraps GLPK with it's modelling language in python? Using PyGLPK, as an additional layer, I'm pretty sure there is some relevant code there. On Aug 1, 12:46 pm, Carlo Hamalainen wrote: > On

[sage-devel] Re: reviews for symbolics bug fixes

2009-08-01 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi Golam, On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:17:11 + Golam Mortuza Hossain wrote: > On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Burcin Erocal > wrote: > > > > I just uploaded a new pynac package and patches which fix > > > > #6404 conjugate typesetting > > #6401 typesetting real and imag > > #6243 fderivative hash

[sage-devel] Re: GLPK - Vote for possible inclusion in Sage

2009-08-01 Thread Carlo Hamalainen
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Nathann Cohen wrote: > Are you interested by LP features in Sage with GLPK as the native > solver ? ( The others would have to be optional packages but we > thought it would be smart to have a native one ). Yes, especially if it can be used to speed up the graph co

[sage-devel] Re: reviews for symbolics bug fixes

2009-08-01 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi, On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 2:54 AM, Burcin Erocal wrote: > > I just uploaded a new pynac package and patches which fix > > #6404 conjugate typesetting > #6401 typesetting real and imag > #6243 fderivative hash collision > #6377 exp evaluation at infinity > > on trac. The package is here: > > http

[sage-devel] cool things coming up in matplotlib

2009-08-01 Thread Jason Grout
Recently there was a thread that dealt with having axes of 2d plots cross at non-origin points. This is a "problem" (depending on who is talking :) of the current Sage axis code. There are some *very* cool things coming up in the next release of matplotlib that are related to this. The relea

[sage-devel] Re: Sage organizational structure, AWOL people

2009-08-01 Thread David Kirkby
2009/7/30 William Stein : > Hi, > > There is an article on slashdot today about the CentOS project admin being > AWOL: > > http://linux.slashdot.org/story/09/07/30/130249/CentOS-Project-Administrator-Goes-AWOL?art_pos=4 > > "Lance Davis, the main project administrator for CentOS, a popular free >

[sage-devel] GLPK - Vote for possible inclusion in Sage

2009-08-01 Thread Nathann Cohen
Hello everybody !!! Following this discussion ( http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/9da47e06bcdfc49f ) about the availability of Linear Program Solvers and Mixed Integer Program Solvers in Sage, I wrote a basic interface between Sage and ( GLPK, Coin-Or ). This patch i