[sage-devel] Re: [codenode-devel] Re: notebook rewrite

2009-07-20 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Alex Clemesha wrote: > > Hi Ondrej, > > I'll reply from a purely codenode point of view.  You sent this > email to both lists, but I'm only qualified to describe the details > of codenode's current architecture. Yes. In fact, one reason I wrote it is so that you

[sage-devel] Re: [codenode-devel] Re: notebook rewrite

2009-07-20 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:21 PM, William Stein wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Ondrej Certik wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I finally learned javascript and AJAX, so that I can help with the >> notebook. I also studied it's sources. >> >> First things I like: >> >> * I like the user interface, i

[sage-devel] Re: notebook rewrite

2009-07-20 Thread killian koepsell
Hi Ondrej, very nice work! On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Ondrej Certik wrote: >  a) the keyboard handling is horrific, why not to use some standard > library for that, that works across all browsers >  b) it uses some custom format for transfering data (which has bugs, > like > http://groups

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 4.1.1.alpha0 released

2009-07-20 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Rob, On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Rob Beezer wrote: > > Minh Nguyen wrote: > >> This is the first release of the Sage 4.1.1 release cycle. > > I get the following error building from source on 64-bit Ubuntu 9.04 > on Intel Core Duo > > error: could not create 'build/temp.linux-x86_64-2.6':

[sage-devel] Re: notebook rewrite

2009-07-20 Thread John H Palmieri
On Jul 20, 9:02 pm, Ondrej Certik wrote: [snip] > Also, question to all, do you like the In [3] and Out[3] lines? I > don't have an opinion on it yet myself, so I implemented them, to see > how it looks like. How easy would it be to add a way to toggle them on and off? > Also, please let me k

[sage-devel] Re: [codenode-devel] notebook rewrite

2009-07-20 Thread Alex Clemesha
Hi Ondrej, I'll reply from a purely codenode point of view. You sent this email to both lists, but I'm only qualified to describe the details of codenode's current architecture. >  a) the keyboard handling is horrific, why not to use some standard > library for that, that works across all brow

[sage-devel] Re: [codenode-devel] notebook rewrite

2009-07-20 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Ondrej Certik wrote: > Hi, > > I finally learned javascript and AJAX, so that I can help with the > notebook. I also studied it's sources. > > First things I like: > > * I like the user interface, it's usable, especially the attention to > little details, like bord

[sage-devel] Sage 4.1.1.alpha0 released

2009-07-20 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi folks, This is the first release of the Sage 4.1.1 release cycle. William and I are co-chairing this release cycle. The source tarball and the sage.math only binary are available at http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/mvngu/release/sage-4.1.1.alpha0.tar http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/m

[sage-devel] Re: Sage sandpiles package

2009-07-20 Thread davidp
Marshall and David: thanks very much for these suggestions. Dave On Jul 20, 4:59 am, David Joyner wrote: > On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 3:33 PM, davidp wrote: > > > I have been working on a Sage package for doing computations involving > > the > > Abelian Sandpile Model.  In addition, this summer I

[sage-devel] Re: memset() bug which messed up MPFR tests has been reported to Sun

2009-07-20 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > I've officially reported this bug to Sun, as the machine on which it was > observed is under a support contract. > > Hopefully they will fix the library code. I've been given a work-around, which is to unmount the library # umount /platform/sun4v/lib/libc_psr.so.1 wh

Fwd: [sage-devel] Re: Sage and JSXGraph

2009-07-20 Thread William Stein
(Just in case Markus isn't subscribed.) -- Forwarded message -- From: Markus Hohenwarter Date: Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage and JSXGraph To: William Stein Cc: sage-devel@googlegroups.com, Alfred Wassermann , Michael Borcherds Dear William,

[sage-devel] Re: Vote for inclusion of Frobby spkg

2009-07-20 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: > So I vote +1 to inclusion of Frobby in Sage, modulo having the issues > that have been discussed in this thread being sorted out (e.g., > Solaris support). > > -- William If someone does make a package, I could test it here home to give another data point in addition to

[sage-devel] Re: tutorial / screencast

2009-07-20 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 3:53 PM, casbon wrote: > > > On Jul 11, 6:59 pm, William Stein wrote: >> 2009/7/11 casbon : >> Any chance you could try out http://sagenb.org and give similar feedback? >> [to what you gave for codenode] > > This seems a lot clearer - the evaluate button works, blocks wor

[sage-devel] memset() bug which messed up MPFR tests has been reported to Sun

2009-07-20 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I've officially reported this bug to Sun, as the machine on which it was observed is under a support contract. Hopefully they will fix the library code. The following bit of code, which was a modification of a program wirten by Gonzalo Tornaria is the simpliest I can find which shows it with b

[sage-devel] Re: ___S_A_G_E___ encoding in the notebook

2009-07-20 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Ondrej Certik wrote: > > Hi, > > if you execute this in the notebook: > > print "___S_A_G_E___" > > the cell will get deleted and "" will endup instead of it. > That's a bug, but you might argue that noone should be executing this > in the first place. Thanks. Fi

[sage-devel] Re: slideshow mode for the notebook

2009-07-20 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Robert Miller wrote: > >> Is the slideshow mode for the notebook in usable form with the patches >> in trac #6342? > > I found a few (minor) bugs when I was working with it. I spent the > time it takes to make a set of slides. After that I knew it well > enough to

[sage-devel] Re: slideshow mode for the notebook

2009-07-20 Thread Marshall Hampton
I was curious, so I tried to apply the patch to 4.1 but it was rejected. It wasn't clear to me why, maybe it needs to be rebased. -Marshall On Jul 20, 3:27 pm, Robert Miller wrote: > > Is the slideshow mode for the notebook in usable form with the patches > > in trac #6342? > > I found a few (

[sage-devel] Re: slideshow mode for the notebook

2009-07-20 Thread Robert Miller
> Is the slideshow mode for the notebook in usable form with the patches > in trac #6342? I found a few (minor) bugs when I was working with it. I spent the time it takes to make a set of slides. After that I knew it well enough to use it during a talk. In other words, there are issues, but you d

[sage-devel] slideshow mode for the notebook

2009-07-20 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi, Is the slideshow mode for the notebook in usable form with the patches in trac #6342? I will be giving a few talks using Sage next week. After seeing the slideshow mode in action in Barcelona, I can't belive we lived without this for such a long time. However, I really don't have much time a

[sage-devel] TachyonPlot function in sage.plot.plot3d.tachyon: used?

2009-07-20 Thread mhampton
I am trying to bring tachyon.py to 100% coverage, and I am wondering if the TachyonPlot class is actually used for anything. It doesn't seem to be, but I wanted to double-check. Incidentally, I am finding that our tachyon interface is missing some functionality, such as rings and axis-aligned bo

[sage-devel] ___S_A_G_E___ encoding in the notebook

2009-07-20 Thread Ondrej Certik
Hi, if you execute this in the notebook: print "___S_A_G_E___" the cell will get deleted and "" will endup instead of it. That's a bug, but you might argue that noone should be executing this in the first place. Ondrej --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this grou

[sage-devel] Re: Sage tutorial: solving equations numerically

2009-07-20 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi John, On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 5:50 AM, John H Palmieri wrote: > This much I think I understand: if you change the end of the line > before the doctest from > > "the following equation::" > > to > > "the following equation: > > ::" > > Then doctests fail, as you report that they should. So

[sage-devel] Re: Sage tutorial: solving equations numerically

2009-07-20 Thread John H Palmieri
On Jul 20, 12:34 pm, Minh Nguyen wrote: > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > I'm getting the following error when working through this part of the > > Sage tutorial > > >http://www.sagemath.org/doc/tutorial/tour_algebra.html#solving-equati... > > > > Here's

[sage-devel] Re: Is new symbolic derivative really worth the efforts?

2009-07-20 Thread Golam Mortuza Hossain
Hi, On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 3:11 PM, William Stein wrote: >>> Or should we just restore old "diff" by simply sub-classing it >>> from SFunction like what is being done  for "integration" >>> and others? > > At first glance doing this sounds like a really good idea.  How hard > would it be for you

[sage-devel] Re: Sage tutorial: solving equations numerically

2009-07-20 Thread Minh Nguyen
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:18 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm getting the following error when working through this part of the > Sage tutorial > > http://www.sagemath.org/doc/tutorial/tour_algebra.html#solving-equations-numerically Here's a weird thing: The example concerned is in th

[sage-devel] Re: sage -upgrade via mirrors

2009-07-20 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jul 20, 2:41 pm, Jason Grout wrote: > As I understand it, the -upgrade downloads just the spkgs it needs. > However, if all that is available on the mirror is the complete .tar > file (i.e., not extracted), there are no spkgs to download.  You would > have to download the .tar file in order to

[sage-devel] Re: Vote for inclusion of Frobby spkg

2009-07-20 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Ezra Miller wrote: > For what it's worth, I agree with your analysis, William. > Ezra > > - > Ezra Miller > Mathematics Department         (919) 660-2846 > Duke University, Box 90320     e...@math.duke.edu >

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and JSXGraph

2009-07-20 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 5:36 AM, Jason Grout wrote: > > William Stein wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Alfred >> Wassermann wrote: >>> Dear William, >>> Tatsuyoshi Hamada from the Knoppix/Math project told me about >>> your wonderful projects Sage (in fact I have heard about it before) >

[sage-devel] Re: Using a templating engine (Jinja?) for the Notebook

2009-07-20 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Tim Dumol wrote: > > I've started a ticket on it ( http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6568 > ) and uploaded a small patch implementing the migration of a few > functions in notebook.py to Jinja -- although not in idiomatic Jinja, > to be done later. Why is

[sage-devel] Re: Vote for inclusion of Frobby spkg

2009-07-20 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:22 AM, gsw wrote: > > > > On 17 Jul., 00:36, William Stein wrote: > >> >> That said, I *do* think it is a good idea to considering getting >> Frobby into standard Sage, simply because it provides much new >> optimized functionality.   That said -- I want to ask a questi

[sage-devel] Re: Vote for inclusion of Frobby spkg

2009-07-20 Thread gsw
On 17 Jul., 00:36, William Stein wrote: > > That said, I *do* think it is a good idea to considering getting > Frobby into standard Sage, simply because it provides much new > optimized functionality.   That said -- I want to ask a question of > people who are voting +1 to this proposal: have

[sage-devel] Sage tutorial: solving equations numerically

2009-07-20 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi folks, I'm getting the following error when working through this part of the Sage tutorial http://www.sagemath.org/doc/tutorial/tour_algebra.html#solving-equations-numerically [mv...@sage ~]$ sage -- | Sage Version 4.1, Rel

[sage-devel] Re: -combinat on 64 bit OS X

2009-07-20 Thread gsw
On 20 Jul., 19:42, William Stein wrote: > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:33 AM, gsw wrote: > > > Hi, > > > I'm downloading these sources (the file name is "sage-4.1.comb.tar" > > BTW, i.e. without "inat") and will build a Mac OS X 10.4 32bit Intel > > version (I can't build 64bit versions for the t

[sage-devel] Re: -combinat on 64 bit OS X

2009-07-20 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:33 AM, gsw wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm downloading these sources (the file name is "sage-4.1.comb.tar" > BTW, i.e. without "inat") and will build a Mac OS X 10.4 32bit Intel > version (I can't build 64bit versions for the time being), which > should work fine on OS X 10.5 (on

[sage-devel] Re: Using a templating engine (Jinja?) for the Notebook

2009-07-20 Thread Tim Dumol
I've started a ticket on it ( http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/6568 ) and uploaded a small patch implementing the migration of a few functions in notebook.py to Jinja -- although not in idiomatic Jinja, to be done later. On Jul 20, 2:12 am, William Stein wrote: > On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at

[sage-devel] Re: -combinat on 64 bit OS X

2009-07-20 Thread gsw
Hi, I'm downloading these sources (the file name is "sage-4.1.comb.tar" BTW, i.e. without "inat") and will build a Mac OS X 10.4 32bit Intel version (I can't build 64bit versions for the time being), which should work fine on OS X 10.5 (on a MacIntel), too. I'll post a note with the link to the r

[sage-devel] Re: changing the Sage banner for new release?

2009-07-20 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi John, On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 2:25 AM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > On Jul 20, 9:10 am, Minh Nguyen wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> I'm about to release Sage 4.1.1.alpha0. But before doing so, I have a >> question about the Sage banner. As you know the banner currently >> reads: >> >> ---

[sage-devel] Re: changing the Sage banner for new release?

2009-07-20 Thread John H Palmieri
On Jul 20, 9:10 am, Minh Nguyen wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm about to release Sage 4.1.1.alpha0. But before doing so, I have a > question about the Sage banner. As you know the banner currently > reads: > > -- > | Sage Version 4.1,

[sage-devel] Re: Can a few of you compile this 23 line program.

2009-07-20 Thread David Kirkby
Here's the ouptput on the Blade 2000 of the code Gonzalo posted. drkir...@kestrel:[~] $ more u.s .file "u.c" .section".rodata" .align 8 .LLC0: .asciz "%d %d\n" .section".text" .align 4 .global main .type main, #fun

[sage-devel] changing the Sage banner for new release?

2009-07-20 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi folks, I'm about to release Sage 4.1.1.alpha0. But before doing so, I have a question about the Sage banner. As you know the banner currently reads: -- | Sage Version 4.1, Release Date: 2009-07-09 | |

[sage-devel] Re: Can a few of you compile this 23 line program.

2009-07-20 Thread Gonzalo Tornaria
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 9:07 AM, David Kirkby wrote: > > How to I force gcc to output the assember like this? $ gcc -S t2.c will create t2.s. You can compile the asm (possibly modified) with $ gcc t2.s -o t2 etc. Gonzalo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this g

[sage-devel] Re: sage -upgrade via mirrors

2009-07-20 Thread Jason Grout
Marshall Hampton wrote: > Hi Jan, > > I thought you could do something like: > > sage -upgrade ftp://ftp.sun.ac.za/pub/mirrors/www.sagemath.org/ > > i.e. you can give an explicit URL, but that doesn't seem to work. I > guess the tarball needs to be unpacked on that mirror for it work - ? As I

[sage-devel] Re: sage -upgrade via mirrors

2009-07-20 Thread Minh Nguyen
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Jan Groenewald wrote: > > Hi > >> > I build sage from source as I believe someone told me >> > that you can do the partial downloads of only new SPKGes >> > with sage -upgrade, but you cannot do this if you untarred a >> > binary. Correct? > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 a

[sage-devel] Re: sage -upgrade via mirrors

2009-07-20 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi > > I build sage from source as I believe someone told me > > that you can do the partial downloads of only new SPKGes > > with sage -upgrade, but you cannot do this if you untarred a > > binary. Correct? On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:05:18AM +1000, Minh Nguyen wrote: > If previously you used a b

[sage-devel] Re: sage -upgrade via mirrors

2009-07-20 Thread Marshall Hampton
Hi Jan, I thought you could do something like: sage -upgrade ftp://ftp.sun.ac.za/pub/mirrors/www.sagemath.org/ i.e. you can give an explicit URL, but that doesn't seem to work. I guess the tarball needs to be unpacked on that mirror for it work - ? -Marshall On Jul 20, 7:56 am, Jan Groenewal

[sage-devel] Re: sage -upgrade via mirrors

2009-07-20 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Jan, On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:56 PM, Jan Groenewald wrote: > > Hi > > I build sage from source as I believe someone told me > that you can do the partial downloads of only new SPKGes > with sage -upgrade, but you cannot do this if you untarred a > binary. Correct? If previously you used a b

[sage-devel] sage -upgrade via mirrors

2009-07-20 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi I build sage from source as I believe someone told me that you can do the partial downloads of only new SPKGes with sage -upgrade, but you cannot do this if you untarred a binary. Correct? Can I tell sage -upgrade to use a South African mirror? Are components (SPKGes) mirrored? regards, Jan

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: CoMarketing: Sage & Sun

2009-07-20 Thread kcrisman
On Jul 20, 8:31 am, Jason Grout wrote: > Rob Beezer wrote: > > William Stein wrote: > > > *  No license fees or budget hassles. > > *  Easy setup for a central notebook server. > > *  Rapid startup time to productive student use. > > I don't have any marketing ideas at the moment beyond what ha

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and JSXGraph

2009-07-20 Thread Jason Grout
William Stein wrote: > On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Alfred > Wassermann wrote: >> Dear William, >> Tatsuyoshi Hamada from the Knoppix/Math project told me about >> your wonderful projects Sage (in fact I have heard about it before) >> and Sage notebook. >> Do you think our project JSXGraph (ht

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: CoMarketing: Sage & Sun

2009-07-20 Thread Jason Grout
Rob Beezer wrote: > William Stein wrote: > > * No license fees or budget hassles. > * Easy setup for a central notebook server. > * Rapid startup time to productive student use. I don't have any marketing ideas at the moment beyond what has already been mentioned. However, I do have to s

[sage-devel] Re: printing and latex representation of multivariate polynomials

2009-07-20 Thread Stan Schymanski
Hi David, Thanks for the clarification. If this is the only reason, I would really prefer a more subtle reminder. Or maybe a command that tells me the precision of my computation when I ask for it? Cheers Stan davidloeffler wrote: > >> Could someone point me to a reason why anything should

[sage-devel] Re: Can a few of you compile this 23 line program.

2009-07-20 Thread David Kirkby
2009/7/20 Gonzalo Tornaria > > Really funny... What would you expect the following program to output? > > #include > #include > > int main (void) > { > int i = 1 , j = -1; > char c = 1, d = 1; > > memset(&c, 2, i + j); > memset(&d, 2, i + j); > > printf("%d %d\n", c, d); > > return 0; > }

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and JSXGraph

2009-07-20 Thread David Joyner
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Rob Beezer wrote: > > William Stein wrote: >> Probably  I've cc'd this respond to the sage-devel mailing list to see what >> the many other sage developers think: > > I spent a few minutes looking at this.  Most of the examples look like > many Sage interacts - sl

[sage-devel] Re: Sage sandpiles package

2009-07-20 Thread David Joyner
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 3:33 PM, davidp wrote: > > I have been working on a Sage package for doing computations involving > the > Abelian Sandpile Model.  In addition, this summer I am the mentor for > a Google > Summer of Code project which is a java application for visualizing and > analyzing sa

[sage-devel] Re: printing and latex representation of multivariate polynomials

2009-07-20 Thread davidloeffler
> Could someone point me to a reason why anything should be printed as > 1.*var? To remind you that the computation you're doing is only correct to 8 decimal places? If you want exact computations you shouldn't be using the real field as base. David --~--~-~--~~

[sage-devel] Re: printing and latex representation of multivariate polynomials

2009-07-20 Thread Stan Schymanski
Dear all, I'm not a mathematician, so I am probably asking a very naive question here: Could someone point me to a reason why anything should be printed as 1.*var? Those factors of 1.000 that turn up in otherwise pretty equations are among the most annoying 'features' to me. I woul

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: CoMarketing: Sage & Sun

2009-07-20 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
William Stein wrote: > Hello, > > Sun Microsystems wants Sage to be much more well known, so they are > throwing some of the considerable marketing resources at this problem. > > Ellen Fellenz from Sun asks several specific *marketing* questions > about Sage below. If anybody here has any thoug