[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0.alpha0 released!

2009-05-16 Thread mabshoff
On May 16, 10:00 pm, Minh Nguyen wrote: > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 4:53 PM, John H Palmieri > wrote: > > > > > > > On May 16, 7:55 am, mabshoff wrote: > >> Hello folks, > > >> I did not believe it would happen before the official start of SD 15 > >> anymore, but I beat that deadline by at lea

[sage-devel] Re: sage days video and photos

2009-05-16 Thread Tim Lahey
On May 17, 2009, at 1:02 AM, William Stein wrote: > Also, the rest of the video is now posted here: > > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/wstein/sagedays15/ > William, Thanks for doing this. I've only watched the intro video so far which I was quite thankful for since it allowed me to final

[sage-devel] Re: cpu cache optimization

2009-05-16 Thread Bill Hart
As far as I am aware, the prefetch hardware is designed to guess that you are going to want to access sequential locations and will start prefetching on that basis. If you aren't accessing sequential locations you need to use some kind of sorting algorithm, i.e. write the locations you want to hi

[sage-devel] sage days video and photos

2009-05-16 Thread William Stein
Hi, I posted a bunch of photos from SAge Days 15 here: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/wstein/sagedays15/photos/ Also, the rest of the video is now posted here: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/wstein/sagedays15/ -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Was

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0.alpha0 released!

2009-05-16 Thread Minh Nguyen
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 4:53 PM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > On May 16, 7:55 am, mabshoff wrote: >> Hello folks, >> >> I did not believe it would happen before the official start of SD 15 >> anymore, but I beat that deadline by at least an hour :). Anyway, >> things have gotten to the point where

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0.alpha0 released!

2009-05-16 Thread ghtdak
On May 16, 7:55 am, mabshoff wrote: > Hello folks, > > I did not believe it would happen before the official start of SD 15 > anymore, but I beat that deadline by at least an hour :). All tests passed Ubuntu 9.04 x86_64 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this gro

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.4.2 released (and this time it is the final one)

2009-05-16 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi folks, On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 6:37 AM, mabshoff wrote: > > Hello folks, > > apologies that it took a while, but the final 3.4.2 source tarball > announced a couple days ago turned out to be not truly final :). So > here are md5sums to make the difference clear: > > 8fe47c23872bc39ceb013660206

[sage-devel] Re: cpu cache optimization

2009-05-16 Thread Michael
I am already breaking up the d interval into chunks slightly larger than sqrt(X) specifically to parallelize and also to try to keep memory requirements low. However, I am going up to X=10^11 or perhaps 10^12, so sqrt(X) is still pretty big. So I still need advice on the cache question that I as

[sage-devel] Re: Help system

2009-05-16 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On May 16, 2009, at 8:35 AM, Michel wrote: > On May 16, 1:10 pm, Robert Bradshaw > wrote: >> On May 16, 2009, at 3:16 AM, Michel wrote: >> >>> I would be very useful is sage did something similar. >> >> Yes, it would be! You can just edit sage/calculus/equations.py >> (inside devel/sage of where

[sage-devel] Re: cpu cache optimization

2009-05-16 Thread Gonzalo Tornaria
Michael It may be useful to split your computation in L2-sized chunks. I.e. if you want to sum over all quadratic forms with |d| < X, instead of doing the computation for the whole interval, split the interval in smaller pieces. But not too small, since the innermost loop would be too small/empty

[sage-devel] Re: sage days video

2009-05-16 Thread William Stein
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Harald Schilly wrote: > > > > On May 17, 12:13 am, William Stein wrote: >> http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/wstein/sagedays15/ > > nice, i've compressed your talk to be able to watch it without waiting > too long for the transfer. you should probably compress

[sage-devel] Re: sage days video

2009-05-16 Thread Harald Schilly
On May 17, 12:13 am, William Stein wrote: > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/wstein/sagedays15/ nice, i've compressed your talk to be able to watch it without waiting too long for the transfer. you should probably compress all files? on sage.math, this works: $ mencoder INPUT.MPG -ovc lav

[sage-devel] Re: cpu cache optimization

2009-05-16 Thread Martin Albrecht
> Is there a way in c or c++ to control what parts of an array get read > into cache. For example can > I ***efficiently*** read/manipulate equally spaced entries (spaced > apart by 4a) of my value array into cache rather than the default > consecutive entries. > > Any tips would be greatly apprec

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0.alpha0 released!

2009-05-16 Thread mabshoff
On May 16, 3:01 pm, John Cremona wrote: > 2009/5/16 mabshoff : > > > > > On May 16, 1:54 pm, John Cremona wrote: > >> 2009/5/16 Jaap Spies : > > > > > >> I get the same as Jaap on my 32-bit ubuntu. > > ... whereas on 64-bit ubuntu: > > All tests passed! Well, given that that is the main test

[sage-devel] sage days video

2009-05-16 Thread William Stein
Hi, Video for Sage Days 15 is appearing here, shortly after it is shot. You can play these files with VLC. http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/wstein/sagedays15/ William -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org --~--~-~--~~--

[sage-devel] cpu cache optimization

2009-05-16 Thread Michael
I have a very naive question. I am playing around with binary quadratic forms and have a large array of values. I loop through a,b,c and, for each triple, compute some quantity that depends on a,b,c. Then, in the inner most c loop, I wish to increment value[d], where d=4ac-b^2, by that quantity.

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0.alpha0 released!

2009-05-16 Thread John Cremona
2009/5/16 mabshoff : > > > > On May 16, 1:54 pm, John Cremona wrote: >> 2009/5/16 Jaap Spies : > > > >> I get the same as Jaap on my 32-bit ubuntu. ... whereas on 64-bit ubuntu: All tests passed! John > > Ok, I am waiting on all my builds to finish before opening ticket, but > someone feel f

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0.alpha0 released!

2009-05-16 Thread mabshoff
On May 16, 1:54 pm, John Cremona wrote: > 2009/5/16 Jaap Spies : > I get the same as Jaap on my 32-bit ubuntu. Ok, I am waiting on all my builds to finish before opening ticket, but someone feel free to open two ticktets; (a) numerical noise (b) maxima command completion results needs to

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0.alpha0 released!

2009-05-16 Thread mabshoff
On May 16, 10:37 am, Gonzalo Tornaria wrote: > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 1:53 PM, John H Palmieri > wrote: > > > Cloning doesn't seem to work because of a non-ASCII character in > > mpolynomialsystem.py. Patch up at Sorry, I normally do the clone test before releasing, but I was wau too tired

[sage-devel] SAGE-WN distribution for cluster worker nodes

2009-05-16 Thread Serge A. Salamanka
Hello, 1) I need to create a special distribution of SAGE for installation on worker nodes of a large cluster. It should be disabled of any functionality to start web-services. It can only be used to compute sage-notebooks with the help of Sage python library and other mathematics software includ

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0.alpha0 released!

2009-05-16 Thread John Cremona
2009/5/16 Jaap Spies : > > mabshoff wrote: >> Hello folks, >> >> I did not believe it would happen before the official start of SD 15 >> anymore, but I beat that deadline by at least an hour :). Anyway, >> things have gotten to the point where we hit all the 4.0.a0 goals, > [...] >> >> As usual pl

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0.alpha0 released!

2009-05-16 Thread mabshoff
On May 16, 9:00 am, Jason Grout wrote: > mabshoff wrote: > > >  * ecl causes about two bugs and a half on OSX and probably some other > > systems. __repr__ seems to cause sync issues, there is some problem > > with numerical noise and the list of Maxima commands seems to have > > different orde

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and the Free Software Foundation.

2009-05-16 Thread William Stein
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 4:26 AM, mabshoff wrote: > > > > On May 16, 2:41 am, Robert Bradshaw > wrote: >> On May 16, 2009, at 2:25 AM, ahmet alper parker wrote: > > > >> Of course, philosophical discussions on the merit of GNU/the GPL >> belong on sage-flame, to try and keep sage-devel about mor

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0.alpha0 released!

2009-05-16 Thread Jaap Spies
mabshoff wrote: > Hello folks, > > I did not believe it would happen before the official start of SD 15 > anymore, but I beat that deadline by at least an hour :). Anyway, > things have gotten to the point where we hit all the 4.0.a0 goals, [...] > > As usual please build, doctest and report any

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0.alpha0 released!

2009-05-16 Thread John H Palmieri
On May 16, 10:37 am, Gonzalo Tornaria wrote: > On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 1:53 PM, John H Palmieri > wrote: > > > Cloning doesn't seem to work because of a non-ASCII character in > > mpolynomialsystem.py.  Patch up at > > > > > Isn't this a bug in

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0.alpha0 released!

2009-05-16 Thread Gonzalo Tornaria
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 1:53 PM, John H Palmieri wrote: > Cloning doesn't seem to work because of a non-ASCII character in > mpolynomialsystem.py.  Patch up at > > Isn't this a bug in cloning? I fail to see how non-ASCII characters may be of any i

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0.alpha0 released!

2009-05-16 Thread John H Palmieri
On May 16, 7:55 am, mabshoff wrote: > Hello folks, > > I did not believe it would happen before the official start of SD 15 > anymore, but I beat that deadline by at least an hour :). Anyway, > things have gotten to the point where we hit all the 4.0.a0 goals, > namely: [snip] > As usual please

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0.alpha0 released!

2009-05-16 Thread Jason Grout
mabshoff wrote: > > * ecl causes about two bugs and a half on OSX and probably some other > systems. __repr__ seems to cause sync issues, there is some problem > with numerical noise and the list of Maxima commands seems to have > different orderings on different platforms. All this can be fixed

[sage-devel] Re: Help system

2009-05-16 Thread Jason Grout
Michel wrote: > Dear Simon, > > I am a fairly experienced python/sage user so I know what you wrote. > > My point is that what that apparently "solve" is documented in > two ways > > (1) as reply to "solve?" > (2) as a section in the reference manual > > In this case the information obtained b

[sage-devel] Re: Sage Lightweight LiveCD feedback.

2009-05-16 Thread Lucio Lastra
Update: resolution issue in xterm fixed. Rob, on the terminal try: xterm -font -*-lucidatypewriter-medium-*-*-*-18-*-*-*-*-*-*-* if it's too small yet try: xterm -font -*-lucidatypewriter-medium-*-*-*-20-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Here are more font styles and a full explanation: http://linuxhelp.blogspo

[sage-devel] Re: Help system

2009-05-16 Thread Michel
On May 16, 1:10 pm, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > On May 16, 2009, at 3:16 AM, Michel wrote: > > > Here is one thing I find difficult to use about sage: the help system. > > That's surprising, because it's something a lot of people really find   > nice. > > > > > When in my previous post the symboli

[sage-devel] Sage 4.0.alpha0 released!

2009-05-16 Thread mabshoff
Hello folks, I did not believe it would happen before the official start of SD 15 anymore, but I beat that deadline by at least an hour :). Anyway, things have gotten to the point where we hit all the 4.0.a0 goals, namely: * Builds out of the box on 64 bit OSX MacIntel * gcc 4.4.0 support [wit

[sage-devel] Re: Help system

2009-05-16 Thread Michel
Dear Simon, I am a fairly experienced python/sage user so I know what you wrote. My point is that what that apparently "solve" is documented in two ways (1) as reply to "solve?" (2) as a section in the reference manual In this case the information obtained by method (2) is more concise and use

[sage-devel] Re: Sage Lightweight LiveCD feedback.

2009-05-16 Thread Lucio Lastra
Update: What a foolish answer the past! The key is in how does xterm gives sizes to its fonts. It's easy to workaround. Greetings, Lucio. On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Lucio Lastra wrote: > Hi Rob, > > I tried resizing the window but the fonts remain the same. > I don't know if it can be

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and the Free Software Foundation.

2009-05-16 Thread mabshoff
On May 16, 2:41 am, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > On May 16, 2009, at 2:25 AM, ahmet alper parker wrote: > Of course, philosophical discussions on the merit of GNU/the GPL   > belong on sage-flame, to try and keep sage-devel about more   > development related stuff. +1 - maybe we need a sage-gpl

[sage-devel] Re: Help with licensing a spkg?

2009-05-16 Thread mabshoff
On May 16, 2:30 am, simon.k...@uni-jena.de wrote: > Hi Michael, > > On 15 Mai, 09:52, mabshoff wrote: > > > I am not sure I understand the question, but there is no need to > > provide a diff or anything like that. It is sufficient just to put the > > modified files into the spkg. > > Now I am

[sage-devel] Re: Help system

2009-05-16 Thread simon . king
Dear Michel, On 16 Mai, 12:16, Michel wrote: > Here is one thing I find difficult to use about sage: the help system. I don't know if sage's help system is properly documented in the manuals. But I daresay that the help system of sage is quite efficient. Here are some typical ways to get help

[sage-devel] Re: Help system

2009-05-16 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On May 16, 2009, at 3:16 AM, Michel wrote: > Here is one thing I find difficult to use about sage: the help system. That's surprising, because it's something a lot of people really find nice. > When in my previous post the symbolic "solve" command failed on me I > wanted to use > a numeric so

[sage-devel] Re: Help system

2009-05-16 Thread Michel
I did some more digging around and now I see that the section in the reference manual on "solve" is actually more useful than what is returned by "solve?" (1) It is more concise. (2) It actually contains a reference to "find_root", a numerical method for solving equations Regards, Michel

[sage-devel] Help system

2009-05-16 Thread Michel
Here is one thing I find difficult to use about sage: the help system. When in my previous post the symbolic "solve" command failed on me I wanted to use a numeric solve command. So I did solve? Alas the help page that is returned does not contain a "See also" section. So this didn't work. So

[sage-devel] Strange behaviour of solve...

2009-05-16 Thread Michel
var('Q') solve(Q*sqrt(Q^2 + 2) - 1,Q) yields [Q == 1/sqrt(Q^2 + 2)] Not what I was looking for! Regards, Michel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel-uns

[sage-devel] Re: Sage Lightweight LiveCD feedback.

2009-05-16 Thread Lucio Lastra
Hi Rob, I tried resizing the window but the fonts remain the same. I don't know if it can be changed or set up in a way it matches your resolution. You should look for a Sage developer, he/she probably know the answer. If you find the answer please write me back so I can fix it if possible. By t

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and the Free Software Foundation.

2009-05-16 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On May 16, 2009, at 2:25 AM, ahmet alper parker wrote: > > Why not call GNU/Sage :) Still, I cannot understand why they insist > the name GNU/Linux. There is another software distribution based on > Solaris Kernel which they call it Nexenta. http://www.nexenta.org/os . > There are many more softw

[sage-devel] Re: [ANN] sage-mode-0.6

2009-05-16 Thread Nick Alexander
> Speaking of C-c C-j: could it be made to jump to the next sage prompt > if not currently on one? > > Also (since you requested feature requests): I am still dreaming of a > variant of C-c C-j which would send all the doctests from the top of > the file down to the current point. C-u C-c C-j sho

[sage-devel] Re: [ANN] sage-mode-0.6

2009-05-16 Thread Nick Alexander
On 16-May-09, at 1:54 AM, dagss wrote: > > On 16 Mai, 02:57, Nick Alexander wrote: >> If you remember, please let me know that everything's good. I have >> some fixes to pyrex mode to make for David Roe and I'd like to >> release >> a 0.6.1 sometime soon. > > Is there a reason you are not us

[sage-devel] Re: Help with licensing a spkg?

2009-05-16 Thread simon . king
Hi Michael, On 15 Mai, 09:52, mabshoff wrote: > I am not sure I understand the question, but there is no need to > provide a diff or anything like that. It is sufficient just to put the > modified files into the spkg. Now I am puzzled. The MeatAxe sources have a COPYING file that states: -

[sage-devel] Re: Sage and the Free Software Foundation.

2009-05-16 Thread ahmet alper parker
Why not call GNU/Sage :) Still, I cannot understand why they insist the name GNU/Linux. There is another software distribution based on Solaris Kernel which they call it Nexenta. http://www.nexenta.org/os . There are many more software that are not labeled with the name GNU, but they feel they sho

[sage-devel] Re: [ANN] sage-mode-0.6

2009-05-16 Thread dagss
On 16 Mai, 02:57, Nick Alexander wrote: > If you remember, please let me know that everything's good.  I have   > some fixes to pyrex mode to make for David Roe and I'd like to release   > a 0.6.1 sometime soon. Is there a reason you are not using the cython-mode which ships with Cython? (In the

[sage-devel] Re: [ANN] sage-mode-0.6

2009-05-16 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 05:57:53PM -0700, Nick Alexander wrote: > Hmm. What is M-; bound to for you? For me, it's `comment-dwim', > which is the greatest thing since sliced bread -- it really does do > what I mean! In a docstring, if you're on a line with non-comment > text, it adds a com

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 plan

2009-05-16 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 02:57:27AM -0700, mabshoff wrote: > > > Info like this should not go into trac, but on a wiki page. If you > > > want to see what has changed between revisions on trac it is > > > tedious at best. By popular demand, this is now: http://sagetrac.org/sage_trac/wiki/Categori