[sage-devel] preparsing showing the output

2009-03-24 Thread Ondrej Certik
Hi, I just noticed ipython doing: In [4]: print f.series(x) --> print(f.series(x)) 1 - a*x + a**2*x**2 - a**3*x**3 + a**4*x**4 - a**5*x**5 + O(x**6) and I like it, so it may be a nice idea for sage to be able to optionally turn this on, so that it shows what the preparser is doing to the ex

[sage-devel] Re: is sage.math down?

2009-03-24 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: > > Hi folks, > > It seems like I can't ping sage.math at all. My previous connections > have timed out and I can't even get the site > > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home > > Does anyone have any ideas on what's going on? The power in the s

[sage-devel] Re: ZZ, RR, etc.: mathbb vs. mathbf

2009-03-24 Thread Rob Beezer
I'm in favor of making some of these LaTeX choices configurable. William's example of the grouping symbols for matrices (e.g. square brackets or large parentheses) is the first thing I thought of. I never liked Mathematica's choice and was always just cutting out the rows of a matrix to use withi

[sage-devel] Re: is sage.math down?

2009-03-24 Thread Jason Grout
Minh Nguyen wrote: > Hi folks, > > It seems like I can't ping sage.math at all. My previous connections > have timed out and I can't even get the site > > http://sage.math.washington.edu/home > > Does anyone have any ideas on what's going on? > Same here: $ ping sage.math.washington.edu PING

[sage-devel] is sage.math down?

2009-03-24 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi folks, It seems like I can't ping sage.math at all. My previous connections have timed out and I can't even get the site http://sage.math.washington.edu/home Does anyone have any ideas on what's going on? -- Regards Minh Van Nguyen --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: FInally the link to download SAGElwlcd ISO!

2009-03-24 Thread Lucio Lastra
Alfredo, I'm as glad as you to work together to achieve a better distro in all senses, not to mention the honor it is to me to have this opportunity. I think the way you went choosing the method is perfect and that the key to improve the LiveCD is just to choose which packages to keep and the one

[sage-devel] Re: Compilation problem with sage-3.4.spkg

2009-03-24 Thread bourbabis
Hi. 1) Sorry, I've forgotten to switch to LANG=en before. 2) I'm going to rebuild from scratch and post the whole log. I use an old computer, so it will take some time. 3) "ls /opt/sage-3.4/spkg/installed" returns : atlas-3.8.3.p0 blas-20070724 bzip2-1.0.5 conway_polynomials-0.2 cython-0.10.3

[sage-devel] Re: ZZ, RR, etc.: mathbb vs. mathbf

2009-03-24 Thread Jason Grout
William Stein wrote: > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 11:22 AM, John H Palmieri > wrote: >> On Mar 24, 10:48 am, Jason Grout wrote: >>> I'm curious what the persuasive reasoning was. I've always liked mathbb. >> My impression is that people (maybe Bourbaki?) decided that bold-face >> should be used fo

[sage-devel] Re: ZZ, RR, etc.: mathbb vs. mathbf

2009-03-24 Thread Marshall Hampton
It would be nice have user-configurable settings like this. I definitely prefer mathbb - I think its nice to have special symbols for things like the rationals (as \mathbb{Q}); it lets you use Q as a variable or other object without confusion. -Marshall On Mar 24, 2:00 pm, William Stein wrote:

[sage-devel] Re: Compilation problem with sage-3.4.spkg

2009-03-24 Thread Georg S. Weber
Well, "Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type" is french for "No file or directory of this type". So some headers cannot be found, and this strongly suggests that something went wrong before the Sage library (sage-3.4.spkg) was processed. Is the install log overwritten by subsequent make "runs"?

[sage-devel] Re: Sage on FreeBSD

2009-03-24 Thread Georg S. Weber
Hi Peter, some notes on your questions regarding "Sage packaging": Sage itself is designed in such as way, that it is possible to have quite different versions of Sage installed at the same time, and anywhere in your file system. Since different versions of Sage in general do depend on different

[sage-devel] Re: Compilation problem with sage-3.4.spkg

2009-03-24 Thread Arnaud Bergeron
2009/3/24 William Stein : > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 8:02 AM, bourbabis wrote: >> >> Hello SAGE people. >> >> Everything is in the title. Several attempts with "make" leading to >> the exact same point of failure. >> >> The install log file : >>  http://download206.mediafire.com/nzjxxh0x9jmg/4lj

[sage-devel] Re: ZZ, RR, etc.: mathbb vs. mathbf

2009-03-24 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 11:22 AM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > On Mar 24, 10:48 am, Jason Grout wrote: >> William Stein wrote: >> > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 9:58 AM, John H Palmieri >> > wrote: >> >> Currently the latex methods for ZZ, RR, etc. all used mathbf -- plain >> >> boldface -- rather th

[sage-devel] Re: ZZ, RR, etc.: mathbb vs. mathbf

2009-03-24 Thread John H Palmieri
On Mar 24, 10:48 am, Jason Grout wrote: > William Stein wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 9:58 AM, John H Palmieri > > wrote: > >> Currently the latex methods for ZZ, RR, etc. all used mathbf -- plain > >> boldface -- rather than mathbb -- 'blackboard' bold. See also the (not > >> currently in

[sage-devel] Re: Compilation problem with sage-3.4.spkg

2009-03-24 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 8:02 AM, bourbabis wrote: > > Hello SAGE people. > > Everything is in the title. Several attempts with "make" leading to > the exact same point of failure. > > The install log file : >  http://download206.mediafire.com/nzjxxh0x9jmg/4ljzjnh2mdd/install.log That log only sh

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: FInally the link to download SAGElwlcd ISO!

2009-03-24 Thread Alfredo Portes
Hi Lucio, On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Lucio Lastra wrote: > I finally got your point. Sincerely I didn't know that such thing as > requesting > a particular feature in the LiveCD was possible, that's why I built mine. > > I also want to make clear that my intention is not to take your plac

[sage-devel] Re: ZZ, RR, etc.: mathbb vs. mathbf

2009-03-24 Thread Jason Grout
William Stein wrote: > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 9:58 AM, John H Palmieri > wrote: >> Currently the latex methods for ZZ, RR, etc. all used mathbf -- plain >> boldface -- rather than mathbb -- 'blackboard' bold. See also the (not >> currently in use) file SAGE_ROOT/devel/sage/doc/common/macros.tex

[sage-devel] Re: REDUCE now available under BSD-like license

2009-03-24 Thread Hazem
You all make good points. Certainly more documentation for applied stuff is called for, and I really like the idea of a configuration command to avert having to maintain a separate version. Didn't even think of that! As regards size, I do think that it would be an important factor. I am much mor

[sage-devel] Re: email notification on trac disabled?

2009-03-24 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:27 AM, mabshoff wrote: > > > > On Mar 24, 1:27 am, William Stein wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 3:39 PM, mabshoff wrote: > > > >> I temporarily put a few ip's into /etc/resolv.conf until I can restart >> the vmware server safely (i.e., I'm onsite), and according t

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: FInally the link to download SAGElwlcd ISO!

2009-03-24 Thread Lucio Lastra
Alfredo, I finally got your point. Sincerely I didn't know that such thing as requesting a particular feature in the LiveCD was possible, that's why I built mine. I also want to make clear that my intention is not to take your place or anyone's, I just built that distro and thought it would be ni

[sage-devel] Re: email notification on trac disabled?

2009-03-24 Thread mabshoff
On Mar 24, 1:27 am, William Stein wrote: > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 3:39 PM, mabshoff wrote: > I temporarily put a few ip's into /etc/resolv.conf until I can restart > the vmware server safely (i.e., I'm onsite), and according to > > http://groups.google.com/group/sage-trac > > it looks like

[sage-devel] Re: ZZ, RR, etc.: mathbb vs. mathbf

2009-03-24 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 9:58 AM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > Currently the latex methods for ZZ, RR, etc. all used mathbf -- plain > boldface -- rather than mathbb -- 'blackboard' bold. See also the (not > currently in use) file SAGE_ROOT/devel/sage/doc/common/macros.tex: > lots of mathbf, no math

[sage-devel] ZZ, RR, etc.: mathbb vs. mathbf

2009-03-24 Thread John H Palmieri
Currently the latex methods for ZZ, RR, etc. all used mathbf -- plain boldface -- rather than mathbb -- 'blackboard' bold. See also the (not currently in use) file SAGE_ROOT/devel/sage/doc/common/macros.tex: lots of mathbf, no mathbb. Is this an official style choice for Sage, or did it just spon

[sage-devel] Re: REDUCE now available under BSD-like license

2009-03-24 Thread Jaap Spies
Minh Nguyen wrote: > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Jaap Spies wrote: > > > >>> On a note related to the Scilab <---> Sage interface, there's an >>> experimental spkg up on trac. See ticket #4821 at >>> >>> http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/4821 >>> >>> But the Scilab version for the

[sage-devel] Compilation problem with sage-3.4.spkg

2009-03-24 Thread bourbabis
Hello SAGE people. Everything is in the title. Several attempts with "make" leading to the exact same point of failure. The install log file : http://download206.mediafire.com/nzjxxh0x9jmg/4ljzjnh2mdd/install.log I'm on Debian Lenny with gcc -v : Using built-in specs. Target: i486-linux-gnu C

[sage-devel] Re: Sage on FreeBSD

2009-03-24 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2009-Mar-23 12:38:45 -0700, mabshoff wrote: >> FreeBSD and I've reached the point where I can compile sage-3.4 on >> FreeBSD-8/amd64 (using gcc/g++/gfortran 4.3) and get it to start. > >Which FreeBSD release are you using? As I said, 8-current/amd64. >This is way too much - I get Sage to buil

[sage-devel] Re: REDUCE now available under BSD-like license

2009-03-24 Thread Minh Nguyen
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Jaap Spies wrote: > >> On a note related to the Scilab <---> Sage interface, there's an >> experimental spkg up on trac. See ticket #4821 at >> >> http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/4821 >> >> But the Scilab version for the spkg is a bit outdated. Anyone

[sage-devel] Re: REDUCE now available under BSD-like license

2009-03-24 Thread Jaap Spies
Minh Nguyen wrote: > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 4:38 AM, Hazem wrote: > > > >>> As regards Scilab and Sage, I think that Ronan Paixão has worked on a >>> Sage-Scilab interface. From my reading of the Scilab license, I think >>> it can be legally problematic to include Scilab in Sage, but I'm not

[sage-devel] Re: REDUCE now available under BSD-like license

2009-03-24 Thread Minh Nguyen
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 4:38 AM, Hazem wrote: > >> As regards Scilab and Sage, I think that Ronan Paixão has worked on a >> Sage-Scilab interface. From my reading of the Scilab license, I think >> it can be legally problematic to include Scilab in Sage, but I'm not a >> lawyer. David Joyner kn

[sage-devel] Re: email notification on trac disabled?

2009-03-24 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 3:39 PM, mabshoff wrote: > > > > On Mar 22, 10:27 pm, William Stein wrote: > > Hi, > > > > >> The current trac.sagemath.org mail notification section is the following: >> >> [notification] >> always_notify_owner = true >> always_notify_reporter = true >> always_notify_up