[sage-devel] Re: python vs java for scientific computing

2009-01-20 Thread rjf
On Jan 20, 5:15 pm, Luiz Felipe Martins wrote: > My understanding is that, since Python is based on C, it is IEEE-754 > compliant (as long as the CPU is, which I think is true for all the > modern CPUs). There are many ways of being "compliant" with IEEE-754. If Sage is supposed to get the sa

[sage-devel] Re: python vs java for scientific computing

2009-01-20 Thread Luiz Felipe Martins
My understanding is that, since Python is based on C, it is IEEE-754 compliant (as long as the CPU is, which I think is true for all the modern CPUs). Jython might be a different story. (Which, I just learned, is alive and has a new version just released.) Also, I think the Java changed its floa

[sage-devel] Re: python vs java for scientific computing

2009-01-20 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jan 21, 12:29 am, rjf wrote: > You might like to read >  How Java’s floating-point hurts everyone everywhere (1998) > by W Kahan, J D Darcy > and other papers (like Darcy MS > thesis).http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~wkahan/JAVAhurt.pdf > for arguments that suggest  Java has certain problems wit

[sage-devel] Re: proposition calculus

2009-01-20 Thread Georg S. Weber
On 17 Dez. 2008, 23:52, "Georg S. Weber" wrote: > On 17 Dez., 19:12, "William Stein" wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Georg S. Weber > > > wrote: > > > > Hi William, > > > > On 12 Dez., 18:58, "William Stein" wrote: > > >> Hi, > > > >> Is anybody interested in stuff like th

[sage-devel] Re: python vs java for scientific computing

2009-01-20 Thread rjf
You might like to read How Java’s floating-point hurts everyone everywhere (1998) by W Kahan, J D Darcy and other papers (like Darcy MS thesis). http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~wkahan/JAVAhurt.pdf for arguments that suggest Java has certain problems with floating- point . On the other hand, it may

[sage-devel] Re: sage -br question

2009-01-20 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Jan 20, 2009, at 2:17 PM, David Møller Hansen wrote: > > So I tried to make my own branch and modified a file in the branch by > adding a function to a class. > > I ran sage -br and it seemed to discover the changed file and build > a .pyc from it (I guess) but when I tried to run the function

[sage-devel] Re: sage -br question

2009-01-20 Thread Mike Hansen
Hello, On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:17 PM, David Møller Hansen wrote: > I ran sage -br and it seemed to discover the changed file and build > a .pyc from it (I guess) but when I tried to run the function from > sage it wasn't there. Could you be more specific about the function you wrote and how y

[sage-devel] sage -br question

2009-01-20 Thread David Møller Hansen
So I tried to make my own branch and modified a file in the branch by adding a function to a class. I ran sage -br and it seemed to discover the changed file and build a .pyc from it (I guess) but when I tried to run the function from sage it wasn't there. I tried writing hg_sage.status() and go

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.3.alpha0 released

2009-01-20 Thread John Cremona
Built from scratch on 32-bit Suse (gcc 4.1.2) and 64-bit Suse. All tests passed on 64bit, but I had the same error as Jaap with toy_d_basis.py on 32-bit. John --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe f

[sage-devel] Re: simplicial complexes, chain complexes, and their homology

2009-01-20 Thread Simon King
Hi Michael, Michael Brickenstein schrieb: > I don't know the lib, > but there exists homolog.lib in Singular: > http://www.singular.uni-kl.de/Manual/latest/sing_763.htm#SEC822 > (Link is assumed to break, when docs are updated) I don't know much about that library either, but it seems to not pro

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.3.alpha0 released

2009-01-20 Thread kcrisman
Builds fine OSX.4 PPC, tests seem fine up through sage/sage/misc (as far as it's gotten by now), except for my eternal problem with calculus.py timing out. - kcrisman --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscr

[sage-devel] Writing a Sage Days funding proposal

2009-01-20 Thread Franco Saliola
Hello, I am thinking about submitting a proposal for a Sage Days conference to a mathematics research center, and I noticed a wiki page of advice for future hosts. So it got me wondering whether there is any resource offering advice to proposal writers (things that worked, things that didn't work

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.3.alpha0 released

2009-01-20 Thread Jaap Spies
mabshoff wrote: > > > On Jan 19, 10:11 am, Jaap Spies wrote: >> Jaap Spies wrote: >>> mabshoff wrote: Well, I am not sure if I am happier about Heisenbugs than segfaults :). To be on the save side can you run them in a loop via the shell and see if you get them to crash again? I.

[sage-devel] Re: simplicial complexes, chain complexes, and their homology

2009-01-20 Thread Michael Brickenstein
I don't know the lib, but there exists homolog.lib in Singular: http://www.singular.uni-kl.de/Manual/latest/sing_763.htm#SEC822 (Link is assumed to break, when docs are updated) Michael --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegr

[sage-devel] python vs java for scientific computing

2009-01-20 Thread David Joyner
Hi: This is not Sage-specific, but there is an interesting thread on the scipy-users list that some people on this list may like to follow: http://projects.scipy.org/pipermail/scipy-user/2009-January/019440.html In particular, this page http://sites.google.com/site/almarklein/python-3 (on python