[sage-devel] Re: how to qualify as a ticket reviewer?

2008-11-28 Thread mabshoff
On Nov 29, 6:18 pm, Minh Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi folks, Hi, > I know that the subject of this post is strange/trivial (is it?) --- of > course one can always determine who is/are the reviewers by looking > through the relevant ticket. But I just want to know in some detail the >

[sage-devel] how to qualify as a ticket reviewer?

2008-11-28 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi folks, I know that the subject of this post is strange/trivial (is it?) --- of course one can always determine who is/are the reviewers by looking through the relevant ticket. But I just want to know in some detail the criteria that are used to determine whether someone is considered a reviewe

[sage-devel] Re: question about integer.pyx

2008-11-28 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Nov 28, 2008, at 9:58 PM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > In the file sage/rings/integer.pyx, line 288 says > > cdef class Integer > (sage.structure.element.EuclideanDomainElement): > > followed by documentation and the various methods for this class. But > earlier in the file, line 137 says >

[sage-devel] question about integer.pyx

2008-11-28 Thread John H Palmieri
In the file sage/rings/integer.pyx, line 288 says cdef class Integer (sage.structure.element.EuclideanDomainElement): followed by documentation and the various methods for this class. But earlier in the file, line 137 says cdef class Integer(sage.structure.element.EuclideanDomainElemen

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-support] Re: how to pass a symbolic function to python, maxima etc?

2008-11-28 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Nov 28, 2008, at 4:31 PM, Ronan Paixão wrote: > Em Ter, 2008-11-25 às 08:07 -0800, Mike Hansen escreveu: >> Hi, >> >> On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 6:22 AM, Stan Schymanski >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Mike, >>> >>> This is pretty cool, thanks! Is there something equivalent for >>> p

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-support] Re: how to pass a symbolic function to python, maxima etc?

2008-11-28 Thread Ronan Paixão
Em Ter, 2008-11-25 às 08:07 -0800, Mike Hansen escreveu: > Hi, > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 6:22 AM, Stan Schymanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > This is pretty cool, thanks! Is there something equivalent for passing > > a function f to python or numpy? > > I'm not exactly

[sage-devel] Re: Creation of a sage-devel-announce mailing list?

2008-11-28 Thread mabshoff
On Nov 28, 3:51 pm, "David Joyner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi David, > No objections of course, but just out of curiousity: > Would this be a sage-trac-announce list That sounds like a much better name :) >or would there be non-trac issues as well? I would assume that nearly all discussi

[sage-devel] Re: How strong is the "100% doctest coverage" policy?

2008-11-28 Thread Ronan Paixão
> > > > So all of the above leads me to believe that we must have a 100% > > doctest coverage policy. As soon as we start giving out free passes > > people will start to argue that their code should be exempted due to > > BLAH BLAH BLAH and arguing with various people will take longer than > > wr

[sage-devel] Re: Creation of a sage-devel-announce mailing list?

2008-11-28 Thread David Joyner
No objections of course, but just out of curiousity: Would this be a sage-trac-announce list or would there be non-trac issues as well? On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 6:24 PM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello folks, > > from time to time various issues come up where we would like to reach

[sage-devel] Re: How strong is the "100% doctest coverage" policy?

2008-11-28 Thread Simon King
Dear all, > Now I stand behind this 100% doctest policy! Thank you all for your very helpful comments! They encouraged me to do the effort and provide examples for the tiniest bit. Particularly convincing is for me that, although so far my code works stable under Linux on various machines, ther

[sage-devel] Creation of a sage-devel-announce mailing list?

2008-11-28 Thread mabshoff
Hello folks, from time to time various issues come up where we would like to reach all Sage developers, i.e. all people with trac accounts and various other people closely tied to Sage development. But not all Sage developers read sage-devel since it can be a rather high volume mailing list. So I

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.1.alpha2 released

2008-11-28 Thread mabshoff
On Nov 28, 2:44 pm, John Cremona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Built fine on 64-bit Suse linux, but devel/sage/sage/plot/plot.py > fails: > > sage -t  devel/sage/sage/plot/plot.py > ** > File "/home/jec/sage-3.2.1.alpha2/devel/sa

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.2.1.alpha2 released

2008-11-28 Thread John Cremona
Built fine on 64-bit Suse linux, but devel/sage/sage/plot/plot.py fails: sage -t devel/sage/sage/plot/plot.py ** File "/home/jec/sage-3.2.1.alpha2/devel/sage/sage/plot/plot.py", line 4576: sage: adaptive_refinement(sin, (0,

[sage-devel] Re: How strong is the "100% doctest coverage" policy?

2008-11-28 Thread Jaap Spies
Mike Hansen wrote: > On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Jaap Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Don't! I once tried to lessen the doc-tests for low-level functions in >> sloane functions. I almost got expelled from the Sage dev community :)! >> We ordinary mortals have to accept this is a 'conditi

[sage-devel] Re: How strong is the "100% doctest coverage" policy?

2008-11-28 Thread Mike Hansen
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Jaap Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't! I once tried to lessen the doc-tests for low-level functions in > sloane functions. I almost got expelled from the Sage dev community :)! > We ordinary mortals have to accept this is a 'conditio sine qua non'! > > Now

[sage-devel] Re: How strong is the "100% doctest coverage" policy?

2008-11-28 Thread Jaap Spies
Simon King wrote: > Dear developers, > > I have a couple of basic methods (such as "save part of the attributes > in some file" or "put some data on a to-do-list used by another > method"). I wonder if their doc strings need examples, for the > following reasons: > > 1. I think they are of inter

[sage-devel] Re: How strong is the "100% doctest coverage" policy?

2008-11-28 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Nov 28, 2008, at 10:21 AM, mabshoff wrote: > On Nov 28, 7:48 am, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 4:49 AM, Simon King <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> jena.de> wrote: >> >>> Dear developers, > > Hi, > >>> I have a couple of basic methods (such as "save part of the

[sage-devel] Re: Problem with Integer()

2008-11-28 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Nov 28, 2008, at 7:45 AM, Ronan Paixão wrote: > Em Sex, 2008-11-28 às 05:03 -0800, koffie escreveu: >> I have to agree with William that something like Integer(float(1)) >> really should not work, this is because floats are really ugly and >> unpredictable things which are prone to a lot of er

[sage-devel] Re: How strong is the "100% doctest coverage" policy?

2008-11-28 Thread mabshoff
On Nov 28, 7:48 am, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 4:49 AM, Simon King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dear developers, Hi, > > I have a couple of basic methods (such as "save part of the attributes > > in some file" or "put some data on a to-do-list used

[sage-devel] Re: First Integral Test Suite

2008-11-28 Thread Carl Witty
On Nov 26, 5:01 pm, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 26, 4:58 pm, Carl Witty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm still planning to work on this for most of the "basic" Sage types, > > but I don't know when I'll get to it; if anybody wants to help, let me > > know!  (The basic framework

[sage-devel] Re: How strong is the "100% doctest coverage" policy?

2008-11-28 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 4:49 AM, Simon King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear developers, > > I have a couple of basic methods (such as "save part of the attributes > in some file" or "put some data on a to-do-list used by another > method"). I wonder if their doc strings need examples, for the

[sage-devel] Re: Problem with Integer()

2008-11-28 Thread Ronan Paixão
Em Sex, 2008-11-28 às 05:03 -0800, koffie escreveu: > I have to agree with William that something like Integer(float(1)) > really should not work, this is because floats are really ugly and > unpredictable things which are prone to a lot of errors, and even > implementing Integer(float(X)) to work

[sage-devel] Re: How strong is the "100% doctest coverage" policy?

2008-11-28 Thread mhampton
I think the current policy is pretty absolute - even tiny little utility functions should have a test. Another developer might find and use your utility function, and having a test/example provides a sort of documentation that can be very useful to someone skimming the code. The policy can be a

[sage-devel] Re: Problem with Integer()

2008-11-28 Thread koffie
I have to agree with William that something like Integer(float(1)) really should not work, this is because floats are really ugly and unpredictable things which are prone to a lot of errors, and even implementing Integer(float(X)) to work only if X is just happens to be an integer wil not help to

[sage-devel] How strong is the "100% doctest coverage" policy?

2008-11-28 Thread Simon King
Dear developers, I have a couple of basic methods (such as "save part of the attributes in some file" or "put some data on a to-do-list used by another method"). I wonder if their doc strings need examples, for the following reasons: 1. I think they are of internal use only, and a normal user do

[sage-devel] Re: Mathematica 7 coming

2008-11-28 Thread Michael Brickenstein
On 15 Nov., 00:41, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * Industrial-strengthBooleancomputation > > I wonder if this is similar to PolyBoRi?  Or if it is some formal > logic think. > I wondered until today, but now I got the answer: http://www.wolfram.com/products/mathematica/newin7/