[sage-devel] Re: CUDA and Sage

2008-07-22 Thread Simon Beaumont
On Jul 22, 11:18 pm, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jul 22, 2:55 pm, Simon Beaumont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Simon, > > > I decided to have a play with the pycuda-0.90.2 kit for which I needed > > boost_1_35_0 > > Mhh, is 1.35.0 mandatory? We might have to upgrade boost in Pol

[sage-devel] Re: CUDA and Sage

2008-07-22 Thread Simon Beaumont
I decided to have a play with the pycuda-0.90.2 kit for which I needed boost_1_35_0 - the main caveat is to make sure boost is using the sage python include, lib and executable rather than any system installed python. Similarly configure pycuda. My sage server runs as user sage - so I had to run t

[sage-devel] Re: Sage-3.0.5 Solaris-x86-sse3 binary

2008-07-22 Thread mabshoff
On Jul 22, 10:17 am, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Brandon > Speaking of Matlab, I was able to get version r2008a (most recent > version) working in a linux-2.6 zone using the CentOS 5 distribution. > I then installed RPyC 3.00 RC1 (http://rpyc.wikispaces.com/) Interesting,

[sage-devel] Re: CUDA and Sage

2008-07-22 Thread mabshoff
On Jul 22, 2:55 pm, Simon Beaumont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Simon, > I decided to have a play with the pycuda-0.90.2 kit for which I needed > boost_1_35_0 Mhh, is 1.35.0 mandatory? We might have to upgrade boost in PolyBoRi then. > - the main caveat is to make sure boost is using the sage

[sage-devel] Re: pari slowness

2008-07-22 Thread mabshoff
On Jul 22, 11:48 am, David Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jul 22, 2008, at 12:35 PM, David Harvey wrote: > This seems to have been fixed already in 3.0.5. Sorry for the noise. > > david Hi David, we reverted to the old gmp 4.2.1 spkg in 3.0.5 since the only reason to upgrade was to b

[sage-devel] Re: Status of Sage for Debian

2008-07-22 Thread Timothy G Abbott
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, mabshoff wrote: > > On Jul 21, 7:44 pm, Timothy G Abbott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> 1) Sage 3.0.4 or 3.0.5 built with polybori 0.5rc fails to find >> m4ri_build_all_codes and m4ri_destroy_all_codes.  This is discussed in >> .

[sage-devel] Re: why sage is useful for me

2008-07-22 Thread root
> > Well, there is a vast people using Windows out there either by choice > > or because they don't know about alternatives. > > True, but I suspect the first year students under discussion should be > aware of other systems such as Linux. They would have the choice to > use Linux if they wanted.

[sage-devel] Re: pari slowness

2008-07-22 Thread David Harvey
On Jul 22, 2008, at 12:35 PM, David Harvey wrote: >>> >>> Okay, I can confirm that with sage 3.0.1, sage -gp has the same >>> speed >>> as my standalone GP build. So mostly likely the change to GMP 4.2.2 >>> introduced a speed regression (probably the core 2 patches not being >>> applied proper

[sage-devel] Re: why sage is useful for me

2008-07-22 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On Jul 22, 4:44 pm, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, there is a vast people using Windows out there either by choice > or because they don't know about alternatives. True, but I suspect the first year students under discussion should be aware of other systems such as Linux. They wou

[sage-devel] Re: periods.cc:593: error: call of overloaded `log(int)' is ambiguous

2008-07-22 Thread karakas
Thank you very much for the clear and fast answer. Since upgrading gcc will probably mean an upgrading of glibc too, which will mean a recompilation/upgrade of the whole system, I guess it is better to postpone compilation until I finish my migration from SuSE to Gentoo (which is going to take a *

[sage-devel] Re: Sage-3.0.5 Solaris-x86-sse3 binary

2008-07-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Speaking of Matlab, I was able to get version r2008a (most recent version) working in a linux-2.6 zone using the CentOS 5 distribution. I then installed RPyC 3.00 RC1 ( http://rpyc.wikispaces.com/ ) in both the lx zone's copy of sage and in the native solaris sage installation. I started up the R

[sage-devel] Re: pari slowness

2008-07-22 Thread David Harvey
On Jun 9, 2008, at 10:36 PM, mabshoff wrote: >> Okay, I can confirm that with sage 3.0.1, sage -gp has the same speed >> as my standalone GP build. So mostly likely the change to GMP 4.2.2 >> introduced a speed regression (probably the core 2 patches not being >> applied properly). > > Ok, I will

[sage-devel] Re: periods.cc:593: error: call of overloaded `log(int)' is ambiguous

2008-07-22 Thread mabshoff
On Jul 22, 8:12 am, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jul 22, 6:07 am, karakas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > Here is part of install.log (I have set "" over more or less > > sensitive, or boring information): > > > GCC Version > > gcc -v > > Reading specs from /usr/lib/

[sage-devel] Re: why sage is useful for me

2008-07-22 Thread mabshoff
On Jul 22, 7:33 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jul 22, 11:17 am, "Ondrej Certik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, Hi Ondrej, > > I just wanted to share why Sage is (or will be soon) useful for me. > > > 1) I have a program that I do for my master thesis, it's some f

[sage-devel] Re: The ISSAC Sage Plenary talk

2008-07-22 Thread Burcin Erocal
Hi, On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:44:22 +0200 Martin Albrecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - In the three points explaining what Sage is more precisely you write that > we have "new code ... that unifies" leaving the impression that all/most of > our code is just interface stuff, i.e. the new implem

[sage-devel] Re: Status of Sage for Debian

2008-07-22 Thread mabshoff
On Jul 21, 7:44 pm, Timothy G Abbott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Tim, > I figured I'd give everyone an update on how things are going with the > Sage packages.  I believe (but am not certain) that all of the Sage > dependencies that I want to get into Lenny will make it, though I'm still > wai

[sage-devel] Re: periods.cc:593: error: call of overloaded `log(int)' is ambiguous

2008-07-22 Thread mabshoff
On Jul 22, 6:07 am, karakas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, > Here is part of install.log (I have set "" over more or less > sensitive, or boring information): > > GCC Version > gcc -v > Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-suse-linux/3.3.5/specs > Configured with: ../configure --ena

[sage-devel] Re: Package management and versioning

2008-07-22 Thread mabshoff
On Jul 21, 6:18 am, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Vincent, > > > Quick and very dirty : 'find . -cmin -5' (files modified less than 5 > > > minutes ago). > > > Not even close :). There are packages that install in less than 10 > > seconds. > > That one was a joke, of course.

[sage-devel] Re: why sage is useful for me

2008-07-22 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On Jul 22, 11:17 am, "Ondrej Certik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I just wanted to share why Sage is (or will be soon) useful for me. > > 1) I have a program that I do for my master thesis, it's some finite > elements method + electronic structure calculations and my boss gave > me access

[sage-devel] Some new comments on "Free Mathematica-like program" on forum

2008-07-22 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
You might like to see the question on this forum from 'mud' http://www.karakas-online.de/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3395 my reply (on second page) and now a comment from 'Chris Karakas (chris) At this moment, (and I know these things change), typing "free mathematica" into Google gives this as the #

[sage-devel] Comments on forum 'Free Mathematica-like program'

2008-07-22 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
You might like to see the question on this forum, my reply and now the reply from the original poster. http://www.karakas-online.de/forum/viewtopic.php?p=33950#33950 At this moment, and I know these things change, typing "free mathematiica" into Google gives this as the #1 page. Dave --~--~

[sage-devel] Re: The ISSAC Sage Plenary talk

2008-07-22 Thread Jason Grout
Harald Schilly wrote: > On Jul 22, 10:38 am, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I've posted a new version of my ISSAC talk to ... > > hi, here are some ideas that come to my mind... > > 1. you talk about cython and python. that's ok, but you are only > talking about the "sol

[sage-devel] Re: periods.cc:593: error: call of overloaded `log(int)' is ambiguous

2008-07-22 Thread karakas
Here is part of install.log (I have set "" over more or less sensitive, or boring information): make[1]: Entering directory `XX/sage-3.0.5/spkg' base/dir-0.1-install ../data/ ../local/ ../local/etc ../local/lib ../local/bin ../local/include ../tmp/ XX/spkg/build installed/ base/p

[sage-devel] periods.cc:593: error: call of overloaded `log(int)' is ambiguous

2008-07-22 Thread karakas
Hello, upon compiling of sage 3.0.5 I got this error: ## periods.cc: In member function `void ldash1::init(const level*, const std::vector >&, long int, const rational&)': periods.cc:593: error: call of overloaded `log(int)' is ambiguous /usr/include/bit

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 3.0.6.rc0 released

2008-07-22 Thread David Joyner
Installed fine and passed sage -testall on amd64 hardy heron, phenom chip. On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 7:16 PM, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello folks, > > this is 3.0.6.rc0 which should be the last release before the ISSAC > 2008 special 3.0.6 release for Wednesday. We fixed a bunch of

[sage-devel] Re: The ISSAC Sage Plenary talk

2008-07-22 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jul 22, 10:38 am, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I've posted a new version of my ISSAC talk to ... hi, here are some ideas that come to my mind... 1. you talk about cython and python. that's ok, but you are only talking about the "solution" to a problem without explainin

[sage-devel] Re: CUDA and Sage

2008-07-22 Thread mabshoff
On Jul 22, 1:29 am, Thierry Dumont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Francesco Biscani a écrit : > > > > > With the non-header-only Boost libraries (such as Boost.Python), a > > possible approach could be that of modifying the build system of a > > package that uses them to compile and link the neede

[sage-devel] why sage is useful for me

2008-07-22 Thread Ondrej Certik
Hi, I just wanted to share why Sage is (or will be soon) useful for me. 1) I have a program that I do for my master thesis, it's some finite elements method + electronic structure calculations and my boss gave me access to some solaris very fast boxes, and I told him, thanks the access works, I

[sage-devel] Re: CUDA and Sage

2008-07-22 Thread Thierry Dumont
Francesco Biscani a écrit : > > > With the non-header-only Boost libraries (such as Boost.Python), a > possible approach could be that of modifying the build system of a > package that uses them to compile and link the needed Boost libraries > together with the package's own library. I.e., add the

[sage-devel] Re: CUDA and Sage

2008-07-22 Thread Francesco Biscani
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Michael, mabshoff wrote: | Various people have started looking into this, but so far no one has | produced code. One big issue (at least for me) with pycuda is the | requirement for boost, but I am not sure how that could be overcome. | [...] | Th

[sage-devel] Re: remove or hide a method?

2008-07-22 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi William, On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 1:32 PM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> sage: class Foo(object): >> : def trait_names(self): >> : return ['a','b','c','d'] >> : >> sage: a = Foo() >> sage: a. >> a.aa.ba.ca.da

[sage-devel] Re: The ISSAC Sage Plenary talk

2008-07-22 Thread Martin Albrecht
Hi William, just a few nitpicks: - "Gruppenzugehörigkeit" is probably a typical-typo leftover (?) - In the three points explaining what Sage is more precisely you write that we have "new code ... that unifies" leaving the impression that all/most of our code is just interface stuff, i.e. th