Though you clearly know more about this stuff than I do, I stand by
my statements. I am very skeptical. Seems like getting NAG to issue a license
was like pulling teeth. They obviously want to "poison" Aldor so someone else,
like Maple, doesn't incorporate it into a product and sell it
(as idiotic
Bill (cc: probably too many people),
Many thanks for clarifying and correcting many of my misconceptions below.
You clearly know a lot more about what's really going on with Aldor. I do,
of course, hope very much that it is open sourced. Also, thanks in particular
for clearing up my misconcepti
From: "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I think Jon Bober's code for number of partitions is a very nice example
> of how open source is so much better. Have a look at it some time; the
> comments are fascinating. And reading through the extremely interesting
> and extensive comments makes
On 8/4/07, William Stein wrote:
>
> (This is sort of the middle of a discussion that ties in with another
> discussion on sage-devel, so I've cc'd sage-devel...)
>
> On 8/4/07, Emil Volcheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > William, David,
> >
> > I see this development as an evolutionary process.
On 8/4/07, Alec Mihailovs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: "Alec Mihailovs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > It actually may be true (regarding to Mathematica). Their code may be very
> > poorly commented (and AFAICT it is.)
>
> And the motivation for doing that is very simple. If you (a developer) d
Hi,
I was at an AIM workshop last week about mathematical databases. I'm cc'ing
this email to sage-devel also because it's about an article that discusses some
things very relevant to SAGE development.
There was a lot of discussion last week at AIM about whether the data
we include in
our datab
From: "Alec Mihailovs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> It actually may be true (regarding to Mathematica). Their code may be very
> poorly commented (and AFAICT it is.)
And the motivation for doing that is very simple. If you (a developer) do it
that way, so that you are the only one who could understan
Just a minor comment...
On 8/4/07, Craig Citro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I like the succinctness of David's version, but I feel like the
> exclusion of the long example (about Jane and her theorem) is a
> significant flaw. Think about the audience here: if someone reads the
> Notices, chances
> It is indeed *their* statement on the matter and it is what they
> strongly believe
> to be true.
It's actually may be true (regarding to Mathematica). Their code may be very
poorly commented (and AFAICT it is.)
Alec
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To post to this gro
On 8/4/07, David R. Kohel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If Jon Hanke has a exportable version of his quadratic_forms, the genus
> class can serve as a parent structure for them. He also intended to
> implement a "mass formula", which would be an invariant of the genus.
>
> Gabi will probably want
(This is sort of the middle of a discussion that ties in with another
discussion on sage-devel, so I've cc'd sage-devel...)
On 8/4/07, Emil Volcheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> William, David,
>
> I see this development as an evolutionary process. NAG is unwilling
> at this time to make Aldor o
On 8/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Shoot, this came in as I sent that last message. I have much less to say
> about
> this version; it's very strong. Part of me thinks that the mathematica quote
> is too direct an attack... but it's from the horse's mouth, and I think tha
Shoot, this came in as I sent that last message. I have much less to say about
this version; it's very strong. Part of me thinks that the mathematica quote
is too direct an attack... but it's from the horse's mouth, and I think that
the mathematical community needs to know.
I don't like the
"The aim is to provide software that can be used to explore and
experiment with mathematicas."
First off, I think you don't want an extra "a" in mathematics. I think the
SAGE community has, by and large, taken an anti-mathematica standpoint. ;)
Second, that sentence makes SAGE sound like fluf
All these comments are excellent and are great things
to say. But Andy asked us to include examples of open source
math software. It is very hard to do that in 800 words and
still make some point. Maybe the best thing to do is to
advertise the longer (18 pages or so) version which has
the Jane exa
Hi,
I've just looked at the two versions of this (the one William posted
yesterday, and the one David posted today). As a quick note before I
forget, there's a sentence that's duplicated in David's version today
("The following is an alphabetical list ...").
I like the succinctness of Davi
On Aug 4, 2007, at 13:48 , David Joyner wrote:
>
> Hi:
>
> William Stein and I have written a draft
> http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/wdj/research/oscas-ams-
> notices4.pdf
> which seems suitable (based on suggestions and criteria given to us by
> the editor
> Andy Magid). Thoughts anyone?
-- Forwarded message --
From: Joel B. Mohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Aug 4, 2007 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: sage_c_lib patch
To: William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Oops, here #2:
Two things I should have mentioned in the first mail:
1) The only difference in the sage build scripts
On 8/4/07, Joel B. Mohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> William,
>
> The patch is attached.
Great work!
I'm packing up my apartment right now to move, so I might
not be too responsive today.
>
> Ok, this seems to work on my system. It really wasn't difficult at all! The
> only part that annoys
Chris,
Thanks for your comments -- which will help keep people
from getting the wrong impression by our "opinion piece"
for the AMS. (Note that it is an "opinion piece" rather
than an article, which problem means it is supposed to
be biased...)
On 8/4/07, David Joyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
(1) Saying I am an author of SAGE is misleading,
(2) saying either William Stein or I would benefit
financially is misleading. SAGE is free and we both spend
a lot of time on it (unpaid) that could be spent elsewhere,
as do all the developers I know of who volunteer on any
open source math program
don't know if this is important:
- i might have missed it, but the article doesn't seem to indicate
that the authors of the article are also authors of sage (and would
possibly benefit financially from ams support of sage)
On Aug 4, 4:09 pm, "David Joyner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> word coun
word count of about 800
On 8/4/07, Chris Chiasson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> what were the criteria?
>
> On Aug 4, 3:48 pm, "David Joyner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi:
> >
> > William Stein and I have written a
> > drafthttp://sage.math.washington.edu/home/wdj/research/oscas-ams-notice
what were the criteria?
On Aug 4, 3:48 pm, "David Joyner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi:
>
> William Stein and I have written a
> drafthttp://sage.math.washington.edu/home/wdj/research/oscas-ams-notices4.pdf
> which seems suitable (based on suggestions and criteria given to us by
> the editor
Hi:
William Stein and I have written a draft
http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/wdj/research/oscas-ams-notices4.pdf
which seems suitable (based on suggestions and criteria given to us by
the editor
Andy Magid). Thoughts anyone?
- David Joyner
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On 8/4/07, Robert Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Here is the full traceback.
>
> sage: M = random_matrix(RDF, 4, 4)
> sage: M.eigenspaces()
> ---
>Traceback (most recent call
> last)
> /Volumes/HOME/robert/sage-2.7.
Here is the full traceback.
sage: M = random_matrix(RDF, 4, 4)
sage: M.eigenspaces()
---
Traceback (most recent call
last)
/Volumes/HOME/robert/sage-2.7.2/ in ()
/Volumes/HOME/robert/sage-2.7.2/matrix2.pyx in
matrix2.Matri
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