[sage-devel] Re: pycrypto

2006-12-12 Thread Iftikhar Burhanuddin
> (try it in SAGE-1.5) that includes crypto would be a good idea. > Would you like to volunteer? You would end up editing Sure. I will get to it asa*p* ... in a couple of days. Ifti. ps: The need of the hour is to put an all-nighter to get student final exams grading done! --~--~-~-

[sage-devel] Re: pycrypto

2006-12-12 Thread William Stein
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 22:54:18 -0800, Iftikhar Burhanuddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Pycrypto will likely be included in the next version of sage: > > Cool! This will be another incentive to use SAGE in Ming-Deh Huang's > crypto class next semester. > >> sage: from Crypto.Hash import MD5 >

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE development machines

2006-12-12 Thread William Stein
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:40:26 -0800, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't even know that you'd need virtualization--just have dual/ > triple/n-boot machines. Yuck. The point of the hardware is that people have regular remote access to a range of computing environments. Forcin

[sage-devel] Re: pycrypto

2006-12-12 Thread Iftikhar Burhanuddin
> Pycrypto will likely be included in the next version of sage: Cool! This will be another incentive to use SAGE in Ming-Deh Huang's crypto class next semester. > sage: from Crypto.Hash import MD5 Why doesn't tab completion on "Crypto." ("weave."; etc) work on the SAGE command line like it doe

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE development machines

2006-12-12 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Dec 12, 2006, at 9:32 PM, William Stein wrote: > On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:26:05 -0800, Yi Qiang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On 12/12/06, David Joyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> IMHO, it is also important to test specific flavors of linux >>> (eg, debian, redhat, freeBSD) and windows

[sage-devel] pycrypto

2006-12-12 Thread William Stein
Hello, Pycrypto will likely be included in the next version of sage: http://www.amk.ca/python/code/crypto If you want to try it out now, do sage -i pycrypto-2.0.1 It would be very useful if people could let me know if building works for them or if they run into problems. Here's an example:

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE development machines

2006-12-12 Thread William Stein
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:26:05 -0800, Yi Qiang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 12/12/06, David Joyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> IMHO, it is also important to test specific flavors of linux >> (eg, debian, redhat, freeBSD) and windows types (windows XP, >> vista). Laptops could probably be

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE development machines

2006-12-12 Thread Yi Qiang
On 12/12/06, David Joyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > IMHO, it is also important to test specific flavors of linux > (eg, debian, redhat, freeBSD) and windows types (windows XP, > vista). Laptops could probably be used for this. > Wouldn't something like VMWare Server on a reasonably powerful m

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE development machines

2006-12-12 Thread David Joyner
IMHO, it is also important to test specific flavors of linux (eg, debian, redhat, freeBSD) and windows types (windows XP, vista). Laptops could probably be used for this. On 12/12/06, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello, > > If you would like, you could help me make a precise list

[sage-devel] SAGE development machines

2006-12-12 Thread William Stein
Hello, If you would like, you could help me make a precise list of SAGE development machines that I should buy, by editing this wiki page (or emailing me): http://sage.math.washington.edu:9001/hardware All SAGE developers would have accounts on all these machines, and they would be used for:

[sage-devel] Re: sage-2.0

2006-12-12 Thread William Stein
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 18:53:03 -0800, Iftikhar Burhanuddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Check out http://sage.math.washington.edu:9002/sage_trac/ >> especially the roadmap. > > http://sage.math.washington.edu:9002/sage_trac/roadmap > > V. STABILITY > 2. Look at all "todo"'s in the code. > > Co

[sage-devel] Re: sage-2.0

2006-12-12 Thread Iftikhar Burhanuddin
> Check out http://sage.math.washington.edu:9002/sage_trac/ > especially the roadmap. http://sage.math.washington.edu:9002/sage_trac/roadmap V. STABILITY 2. Look at all "todo"'s in the code. Could someone write a script to scan through code, cull the todos and put it up on the wiki? (I'm useles

[sage-devel] Re: Sage calculus

2006-12-12 Thread Peter
Interesting discussion on calculus in Sage. I definitely like the use of "natural syntax" for defining functions. In fact if an easy_calculus_mode preprocessor is part of the deal, and if we really want calculus to be "insanely easy" (as David puts it) I would advocate for going even further. I d

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE -- filenames for pyrex code in ref?

2006-12-12 Thread William Stein
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:27:16 -0800, Nick Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi William, > > An oddity in ref.pdf. Pyrex filenames get embedded in the output, as > in: > > inverse mod() > File: sage/rings/integer.pyx (starting at line 1671) > > Is that on purpose? No. That is a result of

[sage-devel] Re: 3D Java Visualization

2006-12-12 Thread William Stein
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:10:29 -0800, Robert Bradshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 12, 2006, at 3:55 AM, David Joyner wrote: > I would say that I think Java is the tool for the job, but the > question is to roll our own "pure" java 3d viewer (without all the > bells and whistles like colore

[sage-devel] Re: sage-2.0

2006-12-12 Thread William Stein
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:38:58 -0800, Iftikhar Burhanuddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi William, > > If I'm not mistaken sage-2.0 release time frame is less than 2 months > away. *gulp*. Do you have a sorta *fine*-grained todo list for sage-2.0? > If so can you make it available online (wiki

[sage-devel] sage-2.0

2006-12-12 Thread Iftikhar Burhanuddin
Hi William, If I'm not mistaken sage-2.0 release time frame is less than 2 months away. *gulp*. Do you have a sorta *fine*-grained todo list for sage-2.0? If so can you make it available online (wiki perhaps). It'll keep developers in the loop and provide fodder for interested folks to dive in. I

[sage-devel] Re: 3D Java Visualization

2006-12-12 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Dec 12, 2006, at 3:55 AM, David Joyner wrote: > Speaking from ignorance, I'm not enthusiastic about a java requirement > but can be convinced otherwise. > (1) Can we realy distribute it now (since it is not yet GPL'd)? Java would be a platform that we would assume they already have. We woul

[sage-devel] Re: SAGE 1.5 fails to compile on OS X

2006-12-12 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Dec 12, 2006, at 09:29 , Yi Qiang wrote: > > It looks like it is breaking on configuring GMP. This is on a Macbook > Pro Core 2 Duo. > > Below is the relevant part from the install log: > ./spkg-install: line 32: [: =: unary operator expected This looks like a bug in spkg-install (haven't

[sage-devel] SAGE 1.5 fails to compile on OS X

2006-12-12 Thread Yi Qiang
It looks like it is breaking on configuring GMP. This is on a Macbook Pro Core 2 Duo. Below is the relevant part from the install log: ... gmp-4.2.1.p2/gmp/tune/pre_divrem_1.c gmp-4.2.1.p2/gmp/tune/sb_div.c gmp-4.2.1.p2/gmp/tune/sb_inv.c gmp-4.2.1.p2/gmp/tune/set_strb.c gmp-4.2.1.p2/gmp/tune/se

[sage-devel] Re: 3D Java Visualization

2006-12-12 Thread Fernando Perez
On 12/12/06, Bobby Moretti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (2) is it really fast? I have found that java is annoyingly slow. > > Java has really slow startup time, which is really noticeable when it > halts Firefox. But you can expect applets to run prettty fast, once > they're running. > > Java i

[sage-devel] Re: sage-1.5

2006-12-12 Thread David Joyner
This is exactly why GAP has a "code freeze". Maybe we could start something like that, though in this case it might not have made a difference. ++ On 12/12/06, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 06:51:27 -0800, David J

[sage-devel] Re: sage-1.5

2006-12-12 Thread William Stein
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 06:51:27 -0800, David Joyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The linear_codes 0.8 patch I submitted Oct 26th hasn't been applied. > > The maxima patch of Nov 1 has not been applied. > > The special functions patch of Oct 30th has not been applied. Apply them, make sure every

[sage-devel] Re: sage-1.5

2006-12-12 Thread David Joyner
The linear_codes 0.8 patch I submitted Oct 26th hasn't been applied. The maxima patch of Nov 1 has not been applied. The special functions patch of Oct 30th has not been applied. +++ On 12/12/06, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > I've rele

[sage-devel] sage -upgrade

2006-12-12 Thread William Stein
Hi, sage -upgrade definitely doesn't work because of some issues involving the base package. It sucks down the upgraded packages, but won't install them (hence shouldn't cause any problems either). So far now a fresh install is required. William --~--~-~--~~~---

[sage-devel] Re: 3D Java Visualization

2006-12-12 Thread Bobby Moretti
On 12/12/06, David Joyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Speaking from ignorance, I'm not enthusiastic about a java requirement > but can be convinced otherwise. > (1) Can we realy distribute it now (since it is not yet GPL'd)? We can't distribute java. However, we can distribute java applets, be

[sage-devel] Re: 3D Java Visualization

2006-12-12 Thread David Joyner
Speaking from ignorance, I'm not enthusiastic about a java requirement but can be convinced otherwise. (1) Can we realy distribute it now (since it is not yet GPL'd)? (2) is it really fast? I have found that java is annoyingly slow. In fact, I usually block java (for security reasons, among others

[sage-devel] Re: Why Mathematica is not my language of choice

2006-12-12 Thread Iftikhar Burhanuddin
On Tue, 12 Dec 2006, Tiziano wrote: > > I'm a great fan of SAGE but please don't understimate the alternatives. > Mathematica is a very powerful language even if its features can be > misunderstood. You bring up some good points. Putting other systems down *can* be an unhealthy exercise because

[sage-devel] Re: Why Mathematica is not my language of choice

2006-12-12 Thread Tiziano
Jaap Spies hccnet.nl> writes: > > > From Sloan's A001694: http://www.research.att.com/~njas/sequences/A001694 > > Powerful Numbers: > A positive integer n is powerful if for every prime p dividing n, p^2 also > divides n. > There is a Mathematica program. > > sage: mathematica_console() >

[sage-devel] sage-1.5

2006-12-12 Thread William Stein
Hi, I've released sage-1.5. See http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/dist/src/ And wait until at least an hour after 1am PST since I just started the upload and it is over a cable modem. After people try it out, etc., probably on Friday I'll release a sage-1.5.1 minor bugfix, if I get som

[sage-devel] Re: database survey

2006-12-12 Thread William Stein
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:33:18 -0800, Iftikhar Burhanuddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > William, >> > >> > I've got a wiki started for "Survey of Existing Graph Databases" >> > http://sage.math.washington.edu:9001/graph_db_survey >> > >> > I also updated the links to our project so people ca