[Rails] Re: Web 2.0 Javascript Standardization Topic

2010-01-01 Thread Marnen Laibow-Koser
pharrington wrote: > On Jan 1, 5:58�pm, Alpha Blue wrote: >> today, but much of it lacks certain features that I personally find >> Unfortunately, some of the admin areas do require scripting and I just >> can't find a way to get around scripting without compromising the >> intuitiveness of the in

[Rails] Re: Web 2.0 Javascript Standardization Topic

2010-01-01 Thread pharrington
On Jan 1, 5:58 pm, Alpha Blue wrote: > Thanks everyone, and I do appreciate the comments. > > Coming from a php background and being a former vbulletin developer, > I've decided to tackle a personal project that involves creating a > complete website portal.  It's unlike most projects so unfortuna

[Rails] Re: Web 2.0 Javascript Standardization Topic

2010-01-01 Thread Alpha Blue
Thanks everyone, and I do appreciate the comments. Coming from a php background and being a former vbulletin developer, I've decided to tackle a personal project that involves creating a complete website portal. It's unlike most projects so unfortunately, I can't give out all of the features a

[Rails] Re: Web 2.0 Javascript Standardization Topic

2010-01-01 Thread Frederick Cheung
On Dec 31 2009, 5:32 pm, Alpha Blue wrote: > Designing around users that have javascript disabled is the same as > designing two completely separate websites.  I believe this to be a > waste of time.  Web 2.0 standards that have been bolstered by Yahoo and > Google require javascript functionalit

[Rails] Re: Web 2.0 Javascript Standardization Topic

2009-12-31 Thread pharrington
On Dec 31, 2:47 pm, Alpha Blue wrote: > Somehow the rest of my topic was cut off. > > Marnen, > > I'm fully aware of progressive enhancement.  However, my philosophies > mirror that of Garret Dimon's.  I do not feel that PE works well with > heavily scripted sites.  I provided the links above to s

[Rails] Re: Web 2.0 Javascript Standardization Topic

2009-12-31 Thread Marnen Laibow-Koser
Alpha Blue wrote: > Somehow the rest of my topic was cut off. > > Marnen, > > I'm fully aware of progressive enhancement. However, my philosophies > mirror that of Garret Dimon's. And the relevant article would be...? > I do not feel that PE works well with > heavily scripted sites. It is

[Rails] Re: Web 2.0 Javascript Standardization Topic

2009-12-31 Thread Marnen Laibow-Koser
Alpha Blue wrote: >> Web 2.0 is not a standard. It's a nebulous term that has no real >> meaning, and it should probably banished from your vocabulary. > > http://www.web2summit.com/web2009/public/schedule/detail/10194 > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2.0 The Wikipedia article sort of proves m

[Rails] Re: Web 2.0 Javascript Standardization Topic

2009-12-31 Thread Alpha Blue
Somehow the rest of my topic was cut off. Marnen, I'm fully aware of progressive enhancement. However, my philosophies mirror that of Garret Dimon's. I do not feel that PE works well with heavily scripted sites. I provided the links above to show where my frame of reference towards this top

[Rails] Re: Web 2.0 Javascript Standardization Topic

2009-12-31 Thread Alpha Blue
> Web 2.0 is not a standard. It's a nebulous term that has no real > meaning, and it should probably banished from your vocabulary. http://www.web2summit.com/web2009/public/schedule/detail/10194 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2.0 -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. -- You received thi

[Rails] Re: Web 2.0 Javascript Standardization Topic

2009-12-31 Thread Marnen Laibow-Koser
Alpha Blue wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I've been involved with some pretty heated debates on this topic with > some friends and associates but I would like to hear from some of the > rails community concerning some of the Web 2.0 standards in place. > Web 2.0 is not a standard. It's a nebulous ter