Fw: Interim meetings - changing the way we work

2015-02-17 Thread t . petch
Adrian, Alia Looking for the outcome of an Interim meeting on the IETF website, I became aware of how rarely the proceedings are fully reported (as I posted to the main IETF list recently). Of the meetings in 2014 that produced no Minutes, three are in the Routing Area, 2014-12-18 teas 2014-12-15

Re: I-D Action: draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model-02.txt

2016-02-26 Thread t . petch
Lou I think that it is difficult, perhaps impossible, to review this I-D until the foundations on which it is based, mount and op-state, become firmer. I track the discussions on the netmod WG list (and have done so since before it existed!) and do not expect either of those two issues to settle

Re: I-D Action: draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model-02.txt

2016-02-26 Thread t . petch
- Original Message - From: "Lou Berger" To: "t.petch" ; "Routing WG" Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 12:22 PM > Tom, > > I understand your comment wrt mount . I think it is fair to suggest that > having a net mod working group document on the topic be a gating item. Stay > tuned. This s

Re: I-D Action: draft-rtgyangdt-rtgwg-device-model-02.txt

2016-02-27 Thread t . petch
Original Message - From: "Christian Hopps" To: "t.petch" Cc: "Lou Berger" ; "Routing WG" Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 7:30 PM > On Feb 26, 2016, at 12:29 PM, t.petch wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Lou Berger" mailto:lber...@labn.net>> > To: "t.petch" mailto:ie...@

Re: [Netconf] mbj review of draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-server-model-09

2016-05-02 Thread t . petch
- Original Message - From: "Mahesh Jethanandani" To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 11:10 PM That or we could also rename it to protocol-key-chain to disambiguate it from system-key-chain. Mahesh Myself, I prefer 'rDNS'. If we have two models and one is about key

Re: New Version Notification for draft-bryant-rtgwg-param-sync-01.txt

2017-02-28 Thread t . petch
Stewart You say that this protocol is only intended to be used for the propagation of parameters needed to support the operation of the routing system but the registry you create is named Network Wide Parameter Registry which to me still carries the message that this is all embracing, not just for

Re: New Version Notification for draft-bryant-rtgwg-param-sync-01.txt

2017-02-28 Thread t . petch
- Original Message - From: "Stewart Bryant" Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:48 AM > Hi Tom > > The intent is clear in the rest of the text. > > This was an oversight in the editing. > > How about "Network Wide Routing Parameter Registry"? Stewart I would like it to start with 'Routi

Re: New Version Notification for draft-bryant-rtgwg-param-sync-01.txt

2017-03-01 Thread t . petch
- Original Message - From: "Stewart Bryant" Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 7:19 PM > On 28/02/2017 17:20, t.petch wrote: > > - Original Message - > > From: "Stewart Bryant" > > Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 11:48 AM > > > >> Hi Tom > >> > >> The intent is clear in the rest of

draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-key-chain was: Re: [Netconf] Draft Charter Proposal for NETCONF WG

2017-03-24 Thread t . petch
Acee Changing the title and switching to rtgwg! and inserting after Tom Petch - Original Message - From: "Acee Lindem (acee)" Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 9:01 PM Hi Kent, Tom, et al, On 3/23/17, 4:40 PM, "Kent Watsen" wrote: >Hi Tom, > >> Sorry about mixing up keystore and keyc

Query on Re: RTGWG minutes IETF98

2017-04-21 Thread t . petch
"JT: Xufeng presented 4 considerations yesterday on how to proceed, please take a look." Do you have a reference for that, preferrably an I-D and not PowerPoint? Tom Petch - Original Message - From: "Jeff Tantsura" To: "RTGWG" Cc: "rtgwg-chairs" Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 12:08 AM

exim grey listing does not work was Re: Query on Re: RTGWG minutes IETF98

2017-04-25 Thread t . petch
I just got a bounce for this message for the chairs alias. The same thing just happened on v6ops and the explanation is that when outlook (not something I want to use but have no choice about) resends a message, it can use one of 50 or more different addresses and grey listing cannot cope with tha

Re: Routing directorate QA review of draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-vrrp

2017-05-03 Thread t . petch
- Original Message - From: "Henning Rogge" Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 7:49 AM > > yes I think the new changes improve the draft and make it easier to understand. > > I wonder if there is a way in YANG to prevent the duplication of all > the fields between "interface" and "interface-state"

Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-routing-types-03.txt

2017-05-12 Thread t . petch
Acee I don't understand what you are doing. Martin suggested " Since it is based on an IANA registry, >should it be in a separate IANA-maintained module, like iana-if-type >in RFC 7224?" but you have not done that. You have produced a separate module in whi

Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-qos-model-01.txt

2020-04-15 Thread t petch
Aseem I would like you to think more deeply about the YANG prefix. Prefix need to be easy to use, to read, view and need to be unique, ideally across the IETF. At the same time, they need to be compact, especially when used in lengthy references such as when statements (as RFC8407 says, t

Re: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-policy-model-13

2020-06-01 Thread t petch
I have some doubts about this I-D -01 had four authors; -13 has four authors. None are the same yet much of the text in the I-D is the same. NSSA could be added to the Terminology and/or expanded on first use. Policy subroutines sound interesting - if there is one example I would find useful i

Re: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-policy-model-15

2020-06-03 Thread t petch
Looking some more, at -15: The choice of OSPF identity puzzles me I would expect a base OSPF identity to be useful from which all other OSPF then derive I am not familiar with NSSA T1 and T2 - I see no such language in RFC3101 nor is there an update to that RFC (but they do appear in ospf-y

Re: Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-rib-extend-04.txt

2020-06-29 Thread t petch
I think that this I-D needs a few tweaks. 'RIB' 'a RIB '' the RIB' all appear and I like consistency; since boxes can have multiple RIBs, I suspect 'a RIB' is best. 'route' v 'path' - RFC8349 consciously decided that path did not mean much and so the term does not appear; here 'path' seems

RFC8347 was Re: [Teas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-teas-yang-sr-te-topo-13.txt

2022-04-13 Thread t petch
Borrowing a recent e-mail for its addresses, not content On 22/03/2022 16:11, Xufeng Liu wrote: Hi Kenichi, Thanks for the feedback. We will do the updates as requested. Best, Xufeng I believe that you are the author of RFC8347. What I am wondering (and you can probably guess why:-) is whet

Re: RTGWG last call for draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-rib-extend-10

2022-05-04 Thread t petch
On 03/05/2022 01:01, Jeff Tantsura wrote: Dear RTGWG, This mail begins a Working Group Last Call (WGLC) on draft-ietf-rtgwg-yang-rib-extend-10. I find some of the language less than clear. RFC8349 is specific that a RIB is for a single address family (which is not how I see it used in other

Re: [Technical Errata Reported] RFC8294 (7255)

2022-11-19 Thread t petch
On 18/11/2022 20:18, RFC Errata System wrote: The following errata report has been submitted for RFC8294, "Common YANG Data Types for the Routing Area". -- You may review the report below and at: https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid7255 -

Re: Last Call: (RIB Extension YANG Data Model) to Proposed Standard

2023-05-03 Thread t petch
On 01/05/2023 19:13, Yingzhen Qu wrote: Hi Tom, Thanks for your review and comments. Please see my answers below inline. Thanks, Yingzhen On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 2:33 AM tom petch wrote: I thought that I had commented on this Last Call but perhaps not. The English is quirky, e.g. mixed sin