[RSYNC] Re: Compressed backup

2002-06-13 Thread Ph. Marek
I've got a suggestion regarding the mail Kevin wrote: Instead of comparing the least m bits of n bytes I'd suggest using a algorithm as described in the Paper http://webglimpse.org/publications.html "Siff -- Finding Similar Files in a Large File System" ftp://ftp.cs.arizo

Re: Compressed backup

2002-06-04 Thread jw schultz
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 05:43:17PM +1000, Kevin Easton wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 05:18:42PM -0700, jw schultz wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 11:46:37PM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 04:57:15AM -0700, jw schultz wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at

Re: Compressed backup

2002-06-04 Thread Rusty Russell
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: > Thanks for the discription of how gzip-rsyncable actually works. I should > learn to do some more research before shooting my mouth off. I must have > sounded pretty clueless... the heuristic reset idea is brilliant. Of course it is: Tridge came up with

Re: Compressed backup

2002-06-04 Thread Rusty Russell
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: > window of the data in the file (so that it is position-independent, but > data-dependent). You simply perform a compression reset whenever this > heuristic is true (and N should be a number that's large enough so that you > don't reset too often, yet

Re: Compressed backup

2002-06-04 Thread Ben Escoto
> "BE" == Ben Escoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote the following on Tue, 04 Jun 2002 10:02:58 -0700 KE> When I finally took the time to properly read Rusty's KE> "gzip-rsyncable" patch[1] while writing this mail, I discovered KE> that it appears to use this same general technique, alt

Re: Compressed backup

2002-06-04 Thread Ben Escoto
> "KE" == Kevin Easton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote the following on Tue, 4 Jun 2002 17:43:17 +1000 KE> When I finally took the time to properly read Rusty's KE> "gzip-rsyncable" patch[1] while writing this mail, I discovered KE> that it appears to use this same general technique, al

Re: Compressed backup

2002-06-04 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 05:43:17PM +1000, Kevin Easton wrote: [...] > If you'll indulge me, I'll just restate the problem (as I see it, anyway) > before chiming in with my idea... [snip big discription of why gzip-rsyncable actually does work] Thanks for the discription of how gzip-rsyncable act

Re: Compressed backup

2002-06-04 Thread Kevin Easton
> On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 05:18:42PM -0700, jw schultz wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 11:46:37PM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 04:57:15AM -0700, jw schultz wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 08:51:26PM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: > > > > > On Fri, May 31, 2002

Re: Compressed backup

2002-06-01 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 05:18:42PM -0700, jw schultz wrote: > On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 11:46:37PM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 04:57:15AM -0700, jw schultz wrote: > > > On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 08:51:26PM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 05:25:

Re: Compressed backup

2002-06-01 Thread jw schultz
On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 11:46:37PM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: > On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 04:57:15AM -0700, jw schultz wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 08:51:26PM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: > > > On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 05:25:15PM -0700, jw schultz wrote: > [...] > > When i said "content-aware

Re: Compressed backup

2002-06-01 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 04:57:15AM -0700, jw schultz wrote: > On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 08:51:26PM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: > > On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 05:25:15PM -0700, jw schultz wrote: [...] > When i said "content-aware compressor" what i meant was > that the compressor would actually analiz

Re: Compressed backup

2002-06-01 Thread jw schultz
On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 08:51:26PM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: > On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 05:25:15PM -0700, jw schultz wrote: > > On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 11:45:43AM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: > > > On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 03:35:05PM -0700, jw schultz wrote: [...] > > > I don't think it is possib

Re: Compressed backup

2002-06-01 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 05:25:15PM -0700, jw schultz wrote: > On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 11:45:43AM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: > > On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 03:35:05PM -0700, jw schultz wrote: [...] > > I would guess that the number of changes meeting this criteria would be > > almost non-existant. I

Re: Compressed backup

2002-05-31 Thread jw schultz
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 11:45:43AM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: > On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 03:35:05PM -0700, jw schultz wrote: > [...] > > > There is a patch available to gzip to add an option --rsyncable that's > > > supposed to make it work better with rsync. It's been put into the > > > "patche

Re: Compressed backup

2002-05-30 Thread Donovan Baarda
On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 03:35:05PM -0700, jw schultz wrote: [...] > > There is a patch available to gzip to add an option --rsyncable that's > > supposed to make it work better with rsync. It's been put into the > > "patches" directory for the next release of rsync, or you can get it at > > > >

Re: Compressed backup

2002-05-30 Thread jw schultz
This whole discussion on the efficiency of rsyncing pre-compressed files is probably pointless for Matthias Munnich. He is trying to do backups. Therefore, he doesn't want the originals compressed. On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 03:45:16PM -0500, Dave Dykstra wrote: > On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 04:03:56P

Re: Compressed backup

2002-05-30 Thread Dave Dykstra
On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 04:03:56PM -0400, David Bolen wrote: > Matthias Munnich [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] writes: > > > No! Only the sender side has to compress the data. The comparison > > could be done in the compressed data format. With the -z option > > the sender compresses the data anyway. The c

Re: Compressed backup

2002-05-24 Thread jw schultz
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 12:47:00PM -0700, Matthias Munnich wrote: > Hi > > I am using rsync for backup on the disks of a Linux backup server. > Obviously the server could store more data it the data were > compressed. I read the "rsync -> tar" thread. Unfortunately, a > compressed file system fo

RE: Compressed backup

2002-05-23 Thread David Bolen
Matthias Munnich [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] writes: > No! Only the sender side has to compress the data. The comparison > could be done in the compressed data format. With the -z option > the sender compresses the data anyway. The checksum test should > be faster for the smaller compressed pieces. Exc

Re: Compressed backup

2002-05-23 Thread Matthias Munnich
No! Only the sender side has to compress the data. The comparison could be done in the compressed data format. With the -z option the sender compresses the data anyway. The checksum test should be faster for the smaller compressed pieces. Matt diburim wrote: > > I guess it is not so simple. Be

Re: Compressed backup mode?

2001-11-21 Thread Dave Dykstra
On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 04:47:31PM +0100, Holger Jahn wrote: > Hi list! > > Is there any way to tell rsync to keep the mirrored files compressed? > > I'd like to use it for backup purposes and would like to save some > space on the target machine. > > If there's no such way, I probably have to