Re: Should posters be required to join the list? (was: Bad habits)

2009-02-16 Thread Wayne Davison
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 09:29:11AM -0800, Wayne Davison wrote: > I have decided that we'll try running the list that way and see how > we like it Sadly, the rejection mails are way too cryptic to be useful. I will ask the samba folks if they will consider upgrading to a newer version of mailman t

Re: Should posters be required to join the list? (was: Bad habits)

2009-02-14 Thread Wayne Davison
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 10:47:29PM -0500, Matt McCutchen wrote: > I'm shifting my position on this issue because I've seen several > problems that would be solved by requiring posters to join the list: I have decided that we'll try running the list that way and see how we like it: Non-member post

Re: Should posters be required to join the list? (was: Bad habits)

2009-01-22 Thread macuserfr
ticipate on the list according to proper etiquette, but would *not* entail receiving all the mail: users are welcome to disable mail delivery in their member options. That means we still cannot assume that everyone interested in a thread receives list mail, so the arguments put forth in the "Bad h

Should posters be required to join the list? (was: Bad habits)

2009-01-21 Thread Matt McCutchen
but would *not* entail receiving all the mail: users are welcome to disable mail delivery in their member options. That means we still cannot assume that everyone interested in a thread receives list mail, so the arguments put forth in the "Bad habits" thread for CC-ing interested parties

Re: Mailing list replies (was: Bad habits)

2008-03-25 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Stuart Halliday wrote: > Is it so hard to not do this for people who don't want extra copies? yes. now, not only do people need to remember/maintain a list of mailing lists and how exactly they treat unmoderated posts, they need to remember/maintain a list of specific

Re: Mailing list replies (was: Bad habits)

2008-03-25 Thread Stuart Halliday
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:09:57AM +, Stuart Halliday wrote: > > Is it just me or a lot of people on this mailing list got into a bad > habit > > of also carbon copying to the poster as well? > > I always send the mail to the person I am replying to and Cc the list. > This is not a bad habit

Re: Mailing list replies (was: Bad habits)

2008-03-20 Thread Paul Slootman
On Thu 20 Mar 2008, Wayne Davison wrote: > The list software has a "nodups" setting (that is on by default) which > removes the mailing-list copy if your address is listed in the To or Cc > field. I see that your subscription has this flag set, so if you are > getting duplicates, I wonder if it i

Re: Mailing list replies (was: Bad habits)

2008-03-20 Thread Wayne Davison
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:09:57AM +, Stuart Halliday wrote: > Is it just me or a lot of people on this mailing list got into a bad habit > of also carbon copying to the poster as well? I always send the mail to the person I am replying to and Cc the list. This is not a bad habit, but what I c

Re: Bad habits

2008-03-20 Thread Chris G
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 04:02:47PM +, Stuart Halliday wrote: > > > Why are non members even allowed to post to the list? > > > > Why shouldn't they be? In my view, subscription to the list just > > indicates a personal preference to receive all the mail because one > > wishes to either help o

Re: Bad habits

2008-03-20 Thread Stuart Halliday
> > Why are non members even allowed to post to the list? > > Why shouldn't they be? In my view, subscription to the list just > indicates a personal preference to receive all the mail because one > wishes to either help others or stay informed of rsync-related > happenings. There's no reason wh

Re: Bad habits

2008-03-20 Thread Matt McCutchen
Stuart, On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 15:33 +, Stuart Halliday wrote: > If they're not on the list why assume they want to be emailed? If a user asks a question and I answer it, I assume he/she wants to receive my answer whether or not he/she is on the list. Is that unreasonable? > Why are non memb

Re: Bad habits

2008-03-20 Thread Stuart Halliday
day -Original Message- From: Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: rsync@lists.samba.org Cc: Stuart Halliday <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:32:52 -0400 Subject: Re: Bad habits > On Thursday 20 March 2008, Stuart Halliday wrote: > > > On Thursday 20 Marc

Re: Bad habits

2008-03-20 Thread Matt McCutchen
On Thu, 2008-03-20 at 13:20 +0100, Daniel Maher wrote: > Actually, you can post to the list even if you're not subscribed - the > mail will wait in the moderation queue until an admin releases it, > however. > > Whether the/an admin actually performs this function is still up for > debate though.

Re: Bad habits

2008-03-20 Thread Daniel Maher
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:05:40 -0400 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This list requires you to be subscribed, otherwise you can't post. > > you're the mailing list admin ? you know the non-subscribed > policy ? is it automatically moderated ? out right rejected ? Actually, you c

Re: Bad habits

2008-03-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 20 March 2008, Stuart Halliday wrote: > > On Thursday 20 March 2008, Stuart Halliday wrote: > > > Is it just me or a lot of people on this mailing list got into a bad > > > habit of also carbon copying to the poster as well? > > > > sounds normal to me > > Hardly. > > Mailing lists send

Re: Bad habits

2008-03-20 Thread Stuart Halliday
> On Thursday 20 March 2008, Stuart Halliday wrote: > > Is it just me or a lot of people on this mailing list got into a bad > habit > > of also carbon copying to the poster as well? > > sounds normal to me Hardly. Mailing lists send one email of new posts to each member under normal conditions.

Re: Bad habits

2008-03-20 Thread Jamie Lokier
Mike Frysinger wrote: > > Hence it doesn't make much sense to cc directly; respond to the mailing > > list and the response should reach the persons concerned. > > which gets back to the point of expecting people to be fully aware of the > mailing list policy. many contributors are subscribed to

Re: Bad habits

2008-03-20 Thread David Tonhofer (M-PLIFY S.A.)
On Thursday 20 March 2008, Stuart Halliday wrote: Is it just me or a lot of people on this mailing list got into a bad habit of also carbon copying to the poster as well? Just delete the duplicate. It's that simple. Ironically, the "Bad Habits" subject made me pu

Re: Bad habits

2008-03-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 20 March 2008, Paul Slootman wrote: > On Thu 20 Mar 2008, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > I subscribe to this mailing list. Why send me a duplicate copy? I get > > > more than enough email thank you... > > > > most mailing lists detect such duplicates automatically and dont send out > > in

Re: Bad habits

2008-03-20 Thread Paul Slootman
On Thu 20 Mar 2008, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > I subscribe to this mailing list. Why send me a duplicate copy? I get more > > than enough email thank you... > > most mailing lists detect such duplicates automatically and dont send out in > such cases The mailing list can hardly detect that you'v

Re: Bad habits

2008-03-20 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 20 March 2008, Stuart Halliday wrote: > Is it just me or a lot of people on this mailing list got into a bad habit > of also carbon copying to the poster as well? sounds normal to me > I subscribe to this mailing list. Why send me a duplicate copy? I get more > than enough email thank

Bad habits

2008-03-20 Thread Stuart Halliday
Is it just me or a lot of people on this mailing list got into a bad habit of also carbon copying to the poster as well? I subscribe to this mailing list. Why send me a duplicate copy? I get more than enough email thank you... Personally I like mailing list correspondence kept to the list. Cheer