Re: Builtin encryption support in rsync

2000-10-27 Thread L. Cranswick
>> I honestly don't think it's worth it. Anyone who can compile can >> compile (and install) ssh. > >Possibly it is not worthwhile after all -- I always knew it would be >worse than SSL but the idea of completely cutting out the transport >problems was tempting. > >If it turns out that there ar

Re: Builtin encryption support in rsync (was Re: I also am getting hang/timeout using rsync 2.4.6 -e ssh)

2000-10-27 Thread Martin Pool
On 27 Oct 2000, Bennett Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2000-10-27-21:26:36 Martin Pool: > But OpenSSL isn't just the reference SSL lib these days, it's also > the reference general-purpose crypto library. OpenSSH doesn't talk > SSL, it just uses the crypto routines out of OpenSSL. In fact, > O

Re: Builtin encryption support in rsync (was Re: I also am getting hang/timeout using rsync 2.4.6 -e ssh)

2000-10-27 Thread Martin Pool
On 27 Oct 2000, Bennett Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2000-10-27-22:02:28 Martin Pool: > > In the end, perhaps offering weak security as an alternative is a > > bad idea, as people may be tempted to use it rather than doing a > > little more work to install ssh. On the other hand, sometimes >

Re: Builtin encryption support in rsync (was Re: I also am getting hang/timeout using rsync 2.4.6 -e ssh)

2000-10-27 Thread Martin Pool
On 28 Oct 2000, "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ssh is open software. If there is a bug, it can be fixed by writing to > the authors. If you mean Windows, use Putty. If you mean solaris, > ask the people who run the free solaris software sites to add a > correctly compiled ssh pack

Re: Builtin encryption support in rsync (was Re: I also am getting hang/timeout using rsync 2.4.6 -e ssh)

2000-10-27 Thread Martin Pool
On 27 Oct 2000, "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rsync does its own compression, which is > encryption, as you don't know where the compressed bits come from even > if you guess the compression used. It's true that existing and rearranged data is not transmitted, but inserted data i

Re: I also am getting hang/timeout using rsync 2.4.6 -e ssh

2000-10-27 Thread Bennett Todd
2000-10-26-18:13:28 Harry Putnam: > OK, upgrade it is, but do you know of any rpms available? 2.4.4 seems > to be the most recent rpm shipping with redhat=7.0 If you just fetch the tarball from the rsync home http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/>, you can put that in /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES/, cd to th

Re: Builtin encryption support in rsync (was Re: I also am getting hang/timeout using rsync 2.4.6 -e ssh)

2000-10-27 Thread Martin Pool
On 27 Oct 2000, Dave Dykstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's been a lot of talk about incorporating openssl into rsync but > it's never been done. My previous message explains why it seems hard, but perhaps I've just missed something. > I'm actually much more interested in the active attac

Re: Builtin encryption support in rsync (was Re: I also am getting hang/timeout using rsync 2.4.6 -e ssh)

2000-10-27 Thread Martin Pool
On 27 Oct 2000, Neil Schellenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm absolutely no expert on it (e.g. never programmed with it), but > perhaps you could simply use OpenSSL (which is, after all, what > OpenSSH is implemented on top of anyway). Then you'd get high grade > encryption, certificates,

Re: I also am getting hang/timeout using rsync 2.4.6 -e ssh

2000-10-27 Thread Harry Putnam
Dave Dykstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 26 Oct 2000 15:13:28 -0700, Harry Putnam wrote: > > Thanks for the detailed reply. Maybe my trouble can be fixed by upgrading. > > > > > rsync 2.4.1 had known problems with hanging ssh. Are you initiating from > > > the Linux side? I think it onl

zombie rsync processes

2000-10-27 Thread Adhamh Findlay
I'm running rsync 2.4.4 on AIX 4.1.5. I am seeing zombie rsync processes that continue to grow in number until the machine locks up. Here is what the process look like when I do a ps: rsync -server --sender -ulogDtprz --delete . /enterprise/releases csh -c rsync --sender --sender -ulogDtprz -

Re: I also am getting hang/timeout using rsync 2.4.6 --daemon

2000-10-27 Thread Dave Dykstra
On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 11:09:56AM -0500, Dave Dykstra wrote: > Thanks. I went ahead and put it all into a tarball so you can get it > conveniently through http as well. The URL is > http://www.bell-labs.com/wwexptools/rsynctst/rsynctstdata.tar.gz > > > > How big is that tree? > > > > e

Re: I also am getting hang/timeout using rsync 2.4.6 -e ssh

2000-10-27 Thread Dave Dykstra
On 26 Oct 2000 15:13:28 -0700, Harry Putnam wrote: > Thanks for the detailed reply. Maybe my trouble can be fixed by upgrading. > > > rsync 2.4.1 had known problems with hanging ssh. Are you initiating from > > the Linux side? I think it only affects the initiating side. Please > > upgrade t

Re: I also am getting hang/timeout using rsync 2.4.6 --daemon

2000-10-27 Thread Dave Dykstra
On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 08:01:34AM -0600, Eric Whiting wrote: > At work I'm behind a firewall that won't let me to the rsync port. > > I'm logged into my cable modem and I'll rsync it to my house, tar it > up, ftp it to work and then I'll try different tests here. Thanks. I went ahead and put

Re: I also am getting hang/timeout using rsync 2.4.6 --daemon

2000-10-27 Thread Dave Dykstra
On Tue, Oct 24, 2000 at 04:57:05PM -0500, Dave Dykstra wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 20, 2000 at 10:44:04AM +1000, Andrew Tridgell wrote: > > ... > > > Stephen tells me that a patch went into the 2.2.17 Linux kernel that > > > was supposed to fix this particular problem. If you get a chance it > > > woul

rsync server + groups..

2000-10-27 Thread Timothy Collins
I'm using the following to backup one of my machines. rsync -av --delete --numeric-ids /home2 backup::ads6 rync keeps the right uid on the remote machine but it just sets the group to 0 on all of the files. What could be my issue?     Tim Collins, Server AdministratorGamer's Alliance, Inc.

RE: Rsync problems with german umlauts

2000-10-27 Thread Mueller-Lynch Thomas
Nein, leider nicht, bin noch nicht weitergekommen. Weiss auch nicht wie wir heri weiterkommen sollen. Habe nun meine Leute gebeten, welche die Dateinen erstellen, keine Umlaute zu verwenden. Nun, wenns was neues gibt, bitte melden. Thomas Lynch -Original Message- From: Walter Oberg

Builtin encryption support in rsync (was Re: I also am getting hang/timeout using rsync 2.4.6 -e ssh)

2000-10-27 Thread Martin Pool
Obviously ssh is a source of a large fraction of the problems people have in using rsync. Most of the problems seem to come from the fact that we have to run an external program, and so we get lockups because of operating system or rsync bugs in blocking/nonblocking pipes/sockets etc. I'm look