Re: [CMT file]

1999-05-07 Thread Andrew Wills
Hi Tammy, There is a brief mention of simultaneous X-ray neutron refinements in Young's Book "The Rietveld Method". GSAS and a few other packages can do this (can FullProf?). There are 2 main problems on a simplistic level. Firstly, X-rays see the electron density and neutrons the nucleus. This

Re: [CMT file]

1999-05-07 Thread Norberto Masciocchi
For simultaneous single-crystal X-ray and powder neutron diffraction refinements (with split H atoms!) see for example: Chem.Comm. 1997, 1903. Regards Norberto --- Norberto Masciocchi Dipartimento di Chimica Strutturale e Stereochimic

X-ray and Neutron Refinement.

1999-05-07 Thread Dr. Jaap Vente
OK to follow up Andrew's remarks: I use simultanous X-ray and neutron refinements almost all the time nowadays. There are a lot of advantages when you like me work with transition metal oxides: 1) in general the refinement is more stable. 2) the possibility the study much more complicated str

Re: CMT file

1999-05-07 Thread L. Cranswick
(A warning that unhealthy amounts of self citation follow) For a possible pitfall where the X-ray and Neutrons can be telling you different information - and thus combined X-ray/Neutron refinement can average out some interesting structural information, refer: "Structure analysis of the 6H-Ba(

Re: [CMT file]

1999-05-07 Thread Andrew Wills
Hi Tammy, In answer to your first question, when you start EXPEDT enter 'Y L L P'. This takes you to the listing control menu. Enter 'C' to print the correlation matrix. The output from a GENLES cycle is to the .LST file. All I know about the .CMT file is that it is a binary file created by GSAS

Re: X-ray and Neutron Refinement.

1999-05-07 Thread Armel Le Bail
Jaap wrote : >Reactions? yes ! How many time between the synthesis, the X-ray pattern refinement and then the refinement of both neutron and X-ray patterns ? Suppose that you synthesize your sample today. you may have a good X-ray pattern in less than a month, probably. Then the neutron pattern

Re: X-ray and Neutron Refinement.

1999-05-07 Thread Ed Cussen
The point made by Armel is possibly misplaced. Whilst I agree that waiting for neutron data does impose a considerable delay when compared against readily available laboratory X-ray facilities, this misses the point somewhat. In the cases Jaap outlined an X-ray diffraction experiment would be

Combined neutron/x-ray refinements

1999-05-07 Thread Brian H. Toby
I also use combined CW neutron and synchrotron refinements. A simple minded justification goes as follows. Most of the problems I work on are badly underdetermined -- at least by the crystallographic rule-of-ten (10 crystallographic observations for each structural variable). By changing scatterin

Re: Combined neutron/x-ray refinements

1999-05-07 Thread Armel Le Bail
Brian wrote: >Finally, I should mention in response to Armel that at least here at >NIST, most requests for time are scheduled within 2-8 weeks of when we >get them (see http://www.ncnr.nist.gov/~toby/bt1.html). The confirmation of what I suspected : some peoples are more equal than others !-)