Re: Hamilton's test

2001-04-09 Thread Radovan Cerny
Bob Von Dreele wrote: > >In that case even the single crystal data resulting from the integration > >of images registred by an image plate are not strictly independent!!?? > >Information read from one pixel can depend on the information registred > >in a neigbouring pixel. > > This would be true

Re: Hamilton's test

2001-04-09 Thread Bob Von Dreele
observations are of the same object whether it be Bragg peaks in a powder pattern or some other experimentally observed feature does not make these observations "correlated". Bottom line is that Hamilton's test is just as valid for powder data as it is for single crystal da

Re: Hamilton's test

2001-04-09 Thread Radovan Cerny
Bob Von Dreele wrote: >The only exception to this is profile measurements taken on a film or >image plate >where one observation may "bleed over" onto neighboring >ones. Only in that case are >the profile points correlated with each >other in a statistical sense. > Bob Von Dreele In that case

Re: Hamilton's test

2001-04-09 Thread Bob Von Dreele
>I would be careful with the Hamilton test in the case of powder >diffraction, as your observations are not really independent from each >other! Strictly speaking this is not true. The individual measurements of powder diffraction profile intensities are independent measurements. They do no

Re: Hamilton's test

2001-04-09 Thread Jonathan WRIGHT
> The observations must be statistically independent, but need not be > independent in the sense of what they physically measure. It seems implicit from that sentence that the datapoints must be physically measuring some aspect of the model, is that the case? For example: Does a Hamilton test on

Re: Hamilton's test

2001-04-06 Thread Brian H. Toby
> I would be careful with the Hamilton test in the case of powder > diffraction, as your observations are not really independent from each > other! This is a common misconception. (If not common, at least it was my misconception until I had several long conversations with Ted Prince.) The Hamilt

Re: Hamilton's test

2001-04-06 Thread Holger Kohlmann
> I have obtained different R factors. Now I want to decide which is the > most correct model. I have been suggested to use Hamilton R-factor > ratio test. I would be careful with the Hamilton test in the case of powder diffraction, as your observations are not really independent from each othe

Re: Hamilton's test

2001-04-06 Thread Rory M Wilson (CDH) 13-7938
Dear Nagesh The R-factor is described in: Volume 4 of International Tables for Crystallography section 4.2 pages 288 to 310. if you have a look at Walter Hamilton's original paper: Acta Crystallographica (1965), vol. 18, P502-510 you will see that it is based on the F-test which is

Hamilton's test

2001-04-06 Thread S. Nagesh Kini
Dear Rietvelders, I would appreciate your help in the following problem, Even with a stoichiometric mixture of starting materials, NdBa2Cu3Oy is known to form a solid solution of the type Nd1+xBa2-xCu3Oy(Non stoichiometric). So a small amount of BaCO3 and CuO are expected to be the impurities.