Re: [regext] draft-ietf-regext-epp-fees

2017-03-30 Thread Thomas Corte
Hello, On 2017-03-29 23:48, Alexander Mayrhofer wrote: >> Let me be clear that the fee information for an existing domain >> name is based strictly off the fee tables and not looking at the >> fee and credit information of the existing domain itself. > > Interesting point. Of course, for the sak

Re: [regext] draft-ietf-regext-epp-fees

2017-03-30 Thread Jody Kolker
Hi, Thomas wrote: << I hope we can agree that in such a situation, the *only* useful fee information (e.g. about the cost for a transfer of an affected domain) is the *actual* fee attached to the existing domain object, and not the *theoretical* (lower) fee that would be charged if the same na

Re: [regext] draft-ietf-regext-epp-fees

2017-03-30 Thread Jody Kolker
Alex wrote: >> No. Each fee involved would need to be equal or over the fee required by the server. >> Agreed. Thanks, Jody Kolker 319-294-3933 (office) 319-329-9805 (mobile) Please contact my direct supervisor Charles Beadnall (cbeadn...@godaddy.com) with any feedback. This email message and

Re: [regext] draft-ietf-regext-epp-fees

2017-03-30 Thread Thomas Corte
Hello Jody, On 2017-03-30 14:49, Jody Kolker wrote: >> I hope we can agree that in such a situation, the *only* useful fee >> information (e.g. about the cost for a transfer of an affected >> domain) is the *actual* fee attached to the existing domain object, >> and not the *theoretical* (lower)

Re: [regext] draft-ietf-regext-epp-fees

2017-03-30 Thread Feher, Kal
I personally think an exact match is best. The represented fee is that of the server, not what the Registrar will charge the registrant (which could be above or below the registry price). If we want to ensure that the Registrar correctly understands the price at the time of transaction, then exact

Re: [regext] draft-ietf-regext-epp-fees

2017-03-30 Thread Feher, Kal
I personally think an exact match is best. The represented fee is that of the server, not what the Registrar will charge the registrant (which could be above or below the registry price). If we want to ensure that the Registrar correctly understands the price at the time of transaction, then exac

Re: [regext] draft-ietf-regext-epp-fees

2017-03-30 Thread Chris Cowherd
For Donuts, it would be very important that if the registrar does not pass in the fee extension on the check, that the domain return unavailable when premium. The response reason should indicate that it is unavailable because the name is premium and no fee extension was present in the request. The

Re: [regext] draft-ietf-regext-epp-fees

2017-03-30 Thread Pat Moroney
I also agree that exact match is best. At the time we issue the create command, we have already stored what we expect to be charged for that transaction and used it in other calculations. Maybe instead of picking one, we can add an attribute to the element like where the valid values are "exact"

Re: [regext] draft-ietf-regext-epp-fees

2017-03-30 Thread Gould, James
If it were client specified to set the expected behavior, then it may be better to just set a boolean “exact” attribute with a default of “false” to support the language in the draft that the passed in fee can’t be less than the actual fee and when set to “true” the passed in and actual fee must

Re: [regext] draft-ietf-regext-epp-fees

2017-03-30 Thread Alexander Mayrhofer
Hi, i don’t think we should overengineer here. Before adding yet another attribute which makes things even more complicated, i’m rather with following the majority of opinions that an exact match is required. My favorite is still reduce the text to keep it intentionally “underspecified”. best,

Re: [regext] draft-ietf-regext-epp-fees

2017-03-30 Thread Feher, Kal
Agree. Kal From: Alexander Mayrhofer mailto:alexander.mayrho...@nic.at>> Date: Thursday, 30 March 2017 at 12:25 To: "Gould, James" mailto:jgo...@verisign.com>>, Pat Moroney mailto:pmoro...@name.com>>, Kal Feher mailto:kalman.fe...@neustar.biz>>, "regext@ietf.org" mail

Re: [regext] draft-ietf-regext-epp-fees

2017-03-30 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
I agree, too. Scott From: regext [mailto:regext-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Feher, Kal Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 1:31 PM To: regext@ietf.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] draft-ietf-regext-epp-fees Agree. Kal From: Alexander Mayrhofer mailto:alexander.mayrho...@nic.at>> D