Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt - Side Meeting at IETF 115

2022-11-09 Thread Pawel Kowalik
Am 09.11.22 um 18:47 schrieb Marc Blanchet: There was a very good presentation today in the OAuth group about it, along the lines "don't use multi-device flows on the same device" and I think there is a point about it. In my eyes a mobile app is more like a web app. Yes. It is an http clien

Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt - Side Meeting at IETF 115

2022-11-09 Thread Marc Blanchet
> Le 9 nov. 2022 à 18:39, Pawel Kowalik a écrit : > > Hi Marc, > > Great point about the mobile app. This was not yet discussed and I must admit > I don't have a lot of practical experience in this area. > > I don't think the CLI use-case would be the fitting one, as you won't get the > bes

Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt - Side Meeting at IETF 115

2022-11-09 Thread Pawel Kowalik
Hi Marc, Great point about the mobile app. This was not yet discussed and I must admit I don't have a lot of practical experience in this area. I don't think the CLI use-case would be the fitting one, as you won't get the best experience with the device flow in the web app, unless you are fi

Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt - Side Meeting at IETF 115

2022-11-09 Thread Marc Blanchet
Sorry I was not able to attend. But reading the slides, I just want to make sure the mobile app RDAP client is properly taken into account. I think this is the « CLI » use case described, but just want to make sure we properly cover the mobile app RDAP client (I wrote one… and intend to implemen

Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt - Side Meeting at IETF 115

2022-11-07 Thread Pawel Kowalik
Hi Mario, Am 07.11.22 um 11:27 schrieb Mario Loffredo: I'm very busy Wednesday but, hopefully, I should be free for that time. Great you can make it. After a quick reading, a first big doubt from my side is about what is stated in section 4 regarding "redirect URIs". Browser-based appli

Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt - Side Meeting at IETF 115

2022-11-07 Thread Mario Loffredo
Hi Pawel, thanks for the invitation. I'm very busy Wednesday but, hopefully, I should be free for that time. In addition to the opportunity to have a separate draft about some kind of clients (as you may remember, this was my first recommendation), I would like to put something else on the ta

Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt - Side Meeting at IETF 115

2022-11-07 Thread Pawel Kowalik
Hi, If anyone is interested in discussing this draft and the current issues in more depth than than the WG session time would allow on Thursday Scott and I will be setting up a public side meeting during IETF 115. Wednesday 9 November 16:30 - 17.00 (UTC +0) in Richmond 6. Online Link http

Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt

2022-10-31 Thread Pawel Kowalik
Hi Mario, Am 29.10.22 um 16:41 schrieb Mario Loffredo: Apart from that, based on my interpretation of GDPR, a generic third-party client application processing the PII coming from the RDAP server as claims should be authorized by the end user through a specific request for consent. [PK]

Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt

2022-10-29 Thread Mario Loffredo
Hi Pavel, Il 29/10/2022 10:59, Pawel Kowalik ha scritto: Hi Mario, Am 28.10.22 um 16:36 schrieb Mario Loffredo: [PK] There is quite relevant drawback from this scenario, that there is no assurance the identity provided to the RDAP client by the IdP would be the same as the one used towards

Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt

2022-10-29 Thread Pawel Kowalik
Hi Mario, Am 28.10.22 um 16:36 schrieb Mario Loffredo: [PK] There is quite relevant drawback from this scenario, that there is no assurance the identity provided to the RDAP client by the IdP would be the same as the one used towards the RDAP server if there is no relation. An IdP may hold m

Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt

2022-10-28 Thread Mario Loffredo
Il 28/10/2022 12:25, Pawel Kowalik ha scritto: Am 28.10.22 um 11:35 schrieb Mario Loffredo: [PK] The text was proposed in the way which does not exclude certain valid use-cases but still allows the RDAP server to set its own policy on sharing data. This is clear that RDAP server is acting as

Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt

2022-10-28 Thread Pawel Kowalik
Am 28.10.22 um 11:35 schrieb Mario Loffredo: [PK] The text was proposed in the way which does not exclude certain valid use-cases but still allows the RDAP server to set its own policy on sharing data. This is clear that RDAP server is acting as sort of Identity Provider towards its clients,

Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt

2022-10-28 Thread Mario Loffredo
Hi Pavel, please find my comments embedded below. Il 26/10/2022 17:56, Pawel Kowalik ha scritto: Am 26.10.22 um 15:48 schrieb Mario Loffredo: [ML] Before going into detail with technical aspects, think we should address some privacy implications connected with the following sentence: RDAP s

Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt

2022-10-27 Thread Pawel Kowalik
Am 27.10.22 um 14:11 schrieb Hollenbeck, Scott: 1. How do we address web service clients? [PK] Please find attached my draft on Web Service Clients. Most of it is based on the concepts of the version 9. Scope "feature" is also included in the proposal. [SAH] I've been testing the proposed a

Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt

2022-10-27 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: Pawel Kowalik > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2022 10:58 AM > To: Hollenbeck, Scott ; regext@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid- > 18.txt > > Caution: This email originated from outside

Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt

2022-10-26 Thread Pawel Kowalik
Am 26.10.22 um 15:48 schrieb Mario Loffredo: [ML] Before going into detail with technical aspects, think we should address some privacy implications connected with the following sentence: RDAP server SHOULD merge the scopes requested by the client with the    scopes needed for authorization pu

Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt

2022-10-26 Thread Mario Loffredo
Hi Scott and Pavel, please find my comments below. Il 2022-10-24 16:57 Pawel Kowalik ha scritto: Hi Scott, Am 19.10.22 um 14:13 schrieb Hollenbeck, Scott: 1. How do we address web service clients? [PK] I think the elements we need for web service clients were already elaborated in the disc

Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt

2022-10-25 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: mario.loffr...@iit.cnr.it > Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2022 3:15 AM > To: Hollenbeck, Scott > Cc: kowa...@denic.de; regext@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid- > 18.txt > [SAH] [sn

Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt

2022-10-25 Thread mario . loffredo
Hi Scott, Il 2022-10-21 15:46 Hollenbeck, Scott ha scritto: -Original Message- From: Pawel Kowalik Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 5:18 AM To: Hollenbeck, Scott ; regext@ietf.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid- 18.txt Caution: This email

Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt

2022-10-24 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: Pawel Kowalik > Sent: Monday, October 24, 2022 10:58 AM > To: Hollenbeck, Scott ; regext@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid- > 18.txt > > Caution: This email originated from outside

Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt

2022-10-21 Thread Pawel Kowalik
Am 21.10.22 um 15:46 schrieb Hollenbeck, Scott [SAH] OK, if we keep the "userClaims" I probably need to add text to the Security Considerations section. How about this: "Some of the responses described in this specification return information to a client from an RDAP server that is intended to

Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt

2022-10-21 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: Pawel Kowalik > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2022 5:18 AM > To: Hollenbeck, Scott ; regext@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid- > 18.txt > > Caution: This email originated from outside

Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt

2022-10-21 Thread Pawel Kowalik
Hi Scott, Am 20.10.22 um 21:02 schrieb Hollenbeck, Scott: Am 19.10.22 um 14:13 schrieb Hollenbeck, Scott: [SAH] If the PII data you're referring to is what's included in the userClaims, this might not be an issue if the claims aren't returned, correct? Correct [SAH] Does anyone object to remo

Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt

2022-10-20 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: regext On Behalf Of Pawel Kowalik > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2022 10:00 AM > To: regext@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid- > 18.txt > > Caution: This email originated from outside

Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt

2022-10-19 Thread Pawel Kowalik
Am 19.10.22 um 14:13 schrieb Hollenbeck, Scott: [SAH] If the PII data you're referring to is what's included in the userClaims, this might not be an issue if the claims aren't returned, correct? Correct Kind Regards, Pawel ___ regext mailing lis

Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt

2022-10-19 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
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Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt

2022-10-19 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
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Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt

2022-10-19 Thread Mario Loffredo
Il 18/10/2022 09:27, Pawel Kowalik ha scritto: Am 17.10.22 um 15:32 schrieb Hollenbeck, Scott: [SAH] This update addresses most of the feedback received during the recent WG last call. There are still a few open issues for which I'm hoping to see WG discussion: Thank you Scott. 1. How do we

Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt

2022-10-18 Thread Pawel Kowalik
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Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt

2022-10-18 Thread Pawel Kowalik
Am 17.10.22 um 15:32 schrieb Hollenbeck, Scott: [SAH] This update addresses most of the feedback received during the recent WG last call. There are still a few open issues for which I'm hoping to see WG discussion: Thank you Scott. 1. How do we address web service clients? [PK] I think the

Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt

2022-10-18 Thread Pawel Kowalik
Am 17.10.22 um 15:32 schrieb Hollenbeck, Scott: [SAH] This update addresses most of the feedback received during the recent WG last call. There are still a few open issues for which I'm hoping to see WG discussion: Thank you Scott. 1. How do we address web service clients? [PK] I think the

Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt

2022-10-18 Thread Pawel Kowalik
Am 17.10.22 um 15:32 schrieb Hollenbeck, Scott: [SAH] This update addresses most of the feedback received during the recent WG last call. There are still a few open issues for which I'm hoping to see WG discussion: Thank you Scott. 1. How do we address web service clients? [PK] I think the

Re: [regext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt

2022-10-17 Thread Hollenbeck, Scott
> -Original Message- > From: I-D-Announce On Behalf Of internet- > dra...@ietf.org > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2022 9:02 AM > To: i-d-annou...@ietf.org > Cc: regext@ietf.org > Subject: [EXTERNAL] I-D Action: draft-ietf-regext-rdap-openid-18.txt > > Caution: This email originated from outsi