On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 05:07, Guy Fraser wrote:
> Besides how many of you, whiners even buy the boxed sets to support
> development?
>
I do buy boxed sets - one in every series, normally, being a poor
student. Also, the pricing in UK is rather higher than that for the
comparable US product.
Is t
Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 05:07, Guy Fraser wrote:
>
>>Besides how many of you, whiners even buy the boxed sets to support
>>development?
>>
>
> I do buy boxed sets - one in every series, normally, being a poor
> student. Also, the pricing in UK is rather higher than
Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 05:07, Guy Fraser wrote:
>
>>Besides how many of you, whiners even buy the boxed sets to support
>>development?
>>
>
> I do buy boxed sets - one in every series, normally, being a poor
> student. Also, the pricing in UK is rather higher than
--- Chris Tooley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
> > Is there any significantly more expensive factor
> behind the way Red Hat
> > prices its products overseas? I paid about 60
> pounds - 90 US dollars -
> > for Red Hat professional 7.2. No, it's not the
> version that
> Skipjack is beta:
That's what the original question said. read it, you quoted it.
>
> 1) It is downloaded from beta.redhat.com
That's not where I found it.
> 2) When installing, the messages "Thank you for using RedHat beta software."
> also verify this.
>
> Guy
>
>
> Kevin Waterson wrot
> John Summerfield wrote:
>
> >>--- Jure Pecar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>
> >>>is there any ETA of the next release of RedHat? I
> >>>know that 'when it's
> >>>ready' is the best answer...
> >>>
> >>If you knew that was the best answer you were going to
> >>get, then why ask?
> Sorry for following up on my own post, but since I got no response I'm
> compelled to ask: is this the wrong list for such questions? If it is,
> what's the right one?
>
> On Thursday 25-Apr, I wrote:
> > Hello,
> > is there a way to create process-shared mutexes in Red Hat Linux 7.* ?
> > Cur
Michael Schwendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 2002-04-30, John Summerfield wrote:
>
> :[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> :> People also buy Red Hat Network entitlements that give them access to
> :> updated rpms and isos.
> :
> :I get updated packages without having to pay for them. Specifically I
I am wondering who in romania is buying redhat. I would, if my buget
will let me.
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> Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
> > On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 05:07, Guy Fraser wrote:
> >
> >>Besides how many of you, whiners even buy the boxed sets to support
> >>development?
> >>
> >
> > I do buy boxed sets - one in every series, normally, being a poor
> > student. Also, the pricing in UK is
> I have paid for every version since I started using RedHat 4.0 and
> from my experience
> it is better to wait for a good stable package than to rush an
> unpolished buggy release
> like Mircosoft does, and usualy they are even released late and
> features droped at the
> last moment.
>
> Guy
> Is there any significantly more expensive factor behind the way Red Hat
> prices its products overseas? I paid about 60 pounds - 90 US dollars -
> for Red Hat professional 7.2. No, it's not the version that comes with a
> DVD, so I really fail to see why I should buy every release when people
>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> 1. They will definitely have GPL-related issues in this case. 2. As
> far as I know, RedHat uses the community as the main development
> force.
It does employ a few, though how many I don't know.
There's also a lot of people who've put in quite a deal of unpaid effort
On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 11:05:36PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
> > Sorry for following up on my own post, but since I got no response I'm
> > compelled to ask: is this the wrong list for such questions? If it is,
> > what's the right one?
> >
> > On Thursday 25-Apr, I wrote:
> > > Hello,
> >
--- John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The $229 at
>
http://www.everythinglinux.com.au/cat/distributions/redhat?elinux=fbb
> 5971bd8446edb6fc692b26145b24e is definitely beyond
> MY budget.
>
That's *really* cheap. In Europe it's more like 230
Euro, which is probably at least 70% highe
On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Thomas Dodd wrote:
>
> So the package needs to drop a file in /etc/profile.d
> that sets the executable path to /opt/foo/bin
> and man will aututomatically add /opt/foo/man
> to the MANPATH. It will also look for /opt/foo/bin/man
> if you don't want seperate bin and man dirs f
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> There's no excuse about translating the manual as here in UK the
> manuals are all in English !
English? Or American?
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Hello,
Red Hat boxed sets tend to be priced much higher than
the equivalent pricing in United States.
For instance,
Red Hat Linux: USA - $59.95, Europe - 112 euro
(112x0.90 = $100, or 67% higher)
Red Hat Linux professional: USA - about 120 dollars?
Europe - 230 euro
Americans earn 50% higher t
--- John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> > There's no excuse about translating the manual as
> here in UK the
> > manuals are all in English !
>
> English? Or American?
Good point :p. Cost breakdown would be:
...
$40 - piping draft text through aspell
...
> Since Red Hat Linux is GPL, people do get by just
> buying less boxed sets than they might otherwise, but
> speaking for myself, I feel a bit robbed knowing some
> richer people get their boxes for a lower price...
Yes, but you've got Big Ben.
RedHat is based in the US. That is their home tu
--- Trevor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Who knows... maybe it's because RH is trying to
> reach greater market
> penetration in the US then in Europe.
One would think they'll try to win over the European
market from SuSE. Right now SuSE wins on price and
especially on price/CD (8 CDs + DVD fo
--- Trevor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, but you've got Big Ben.
That's like saying you've got the Washington Monument
when you live in Arkansas - I need to travel 3 hours
to see the Big Ben :p
> RedHat is based in the US. That is their home turf
> (they must choose their
> battles careful
--- Paul Dorneanu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> you mean that there were no buggy releases of
> redhat?
Of course there is no such thing :) I recall that
anecdote:
"It is a truism that in any piece of software the
following two observations are true:
1. You can always shorten the code by one lin
On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, John Summerfield wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> > There's no excuse about translating the manual as here in UK the
> > manuals are all in English !
>
> English? Or American?
>
What do you expect, Red Hat manuals on scouse or geordie dialect?
I doubt they have nor the o
On 2002-04-30, Michèl Alexandre Salim wrote:
: --- John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> The $229 at
:> http://www.everythinglinux.com.au/cat/distributions/redhat?elinux=fbb
:> 5971bd8446edb6fc692b26145b24e is definitely beyond
:> MY budget.
:>
:That's *really* cheap. In Europe it's mor
Americans may earn more but our government
is no slouch at taking their cut. We may not
get taxed they same way but we still pay through
the nose too.
Kathy Bieltz
Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On 2002-04-30, Michèl Alexandre Salim wrote:
>
> : --- John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :>
On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On 2002-04-30, Michèl Alexandre Salim wrote:
>
> : --- John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :> The $229 at
> :> http://www.everythinglinux.com.au/cat/distributions/redhat?elinux=fbb
> :> 5971bd8446edb6fc692b26145b24e is definitely beyond
> :
Come on guys enough of this is enough
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Riku Meskanen wrote:
>On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Thomas Dodd wrote:
>
>>So the package needs to drop a file in /etc/profile.d
>>that sets the executable path to /opt/foo/bin
>>and man will aututomatically add /opt/foo/man
>>to the MANPATH. It will also look for /opt/foo/bin/man
>>if you don't want se
"KB" == Kathy Bieltz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
KB> Americans may earn more but our government
KB> is no slouch at taking their cut. We may not
KB> get taxed they same way but we still pay through
KB> the nose too.
Actually, this is a persistent but false myth. The total American tax
b
Vladimir G. Ivanovic wrote:
>"KB" == Kathy Bieltz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> KB> Americans may earn more but our government
> KB> is no slouch at taking their cut. We may not
> KB> get taxed they same way but we still pay through
> KB> the nose too.
>
>Actually, this is a persistent b
> > Since Red Hat Linux is GPL, people do get by just
> > buying less boxed sets than they might otherwise, but
> > speaking for myself, I feel a bit robbed knowing some
> > richer people get their boxes for a lower price...
>
> Yes, but you've got Big Ben.
>
> RedHat is based in the US. That
> --- Paul Dorneanu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > you mean that there were no buggy releases of
> > redhat?
> Of course there is no such thing :) I recall that
> anecdote:
>
> "It is a truism that in any piece of software the
> following two observations are true:
>
> 1. You can always shorten
> --- Trevor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yes, but you've got Big Ben.
> That's like saying you've got the Washington Monument
> when you live in Arkansas - I need to travel 3 hours
> to see the Big Ben :p
Don't tell me about the Opera House then. Four days by car (driving sensibly).
England
> On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, John Summerfield wrote:
>
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> > > There's no excuse about translating the manual as here in UK the
> > > manuals are all in English !
> >
> > English? Or American?
> >
> What do you expect, Red Hat manuals on scouse or geordie dialect?
>
> I d
On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 19:18, Riku Meskanen wrote:
> How much is the VAT at germany ?
>
> :-) riku
About 17% I believe :)
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On 2002-04-30, Riku Meskanen wrote:
:How much is the VAT at germany ?
16%, but with regard to the overall tax burden in Germany, I don't
see any room for further increase.
Btw, the prices at http://www.europe.redhat.com/shop/de/ are
_including VAT_.
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On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Thomas Dodd wrote:
> Riku Meskanen wrote:
> > a) You add PATH, MANPATH, LD_LIBRARY_PATH etc to all
> >
> Handled by man by default with AUTOPATH so
> MANPATH can be left alone. Just fix PATH
>
Yes I hear you. You explained it already on your first
post, no offence but no need
On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 21:00, John Summerfield wrote:
> Standard English is indistinguishable from what you might term Standard
> Australian. Even my spoken English is often taken (by the English) as English
> with an English accent, and I've never been outside Australia.
>
Impressive :) Not bei
On 30 Apr 2002 22:51:13 +0100
Michel Alexandre Salim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Oh, and don't most Australians live on the East Coast?
Most of us do, I live in Byron Bay on the East Coast but
spent several years working in gold/nickal mines in WA.
I spent much time in the desert and some t
does anyone have a good tool to check if hdlist generated by genhdlist is
useable and it's not gonna crap out on my next kickstart?
any of those tools in anaconda-runtime?
i check for two versions of same package, each comps entry should stat and
rpm in RPMs, anything else?
v
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On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Vilius Puidokas wrote:
> does anyone have a good tool to check if hdlist generated by genhdlist is
> useable and it's not gonna crap out on my next kickstart?
> any of those tools in anaconda-runtime?
> i check for two versions of same package, each comps entry should stat an
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