Re: Pentium 4 Optimizations

2002-12-13 Thread Hiro Yoshioka
> > Perhaps. But that supposes that compiling with --march=pentium4 makes > much difference with gcc. I don't doubt it would make a real difference > with the Intel compiler but my own experince with gcc (admittely on PII > and PIII) makes me sceptical about it. > >

Re: Pentium 4 Optimizations

2002-12-13 Thread Florin Andrei
On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 18:42, John wrote: > On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Tesla 13 wrote: > > > > > Even if I don't gain anything, I just don't want my binaries to run on a > > > > bloody 386 SX. Period. > > > > > >If procinfo shows 91% idle (as it does on my Athlon), then how much is > > >there to gain? 10

Re: Pentium 4 Optimizations

2002-12-13 Thread Craig Kelley
On 13 Dec 2002, Jean Francois Martinez wrote: > On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 04:02, Gary Sandine wrote: > > On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 19:42, John wrote: > > > However, if you wish to persist with building everything yourself, the > > > the project for you is "Linux from Scratch." > > > > Perhaps Gentoo is m

Re: Pentium 4 Optimizations

2002-12-12 Thread Gary Sandine
On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 00:21, Jean Francois Martinez wrote: > > Perhaps Gentoo is more appropriate in this case than Red Hat?> > < > Perhaps. But that supposes that compiling with --march=pentium4 makes > much difference with gcc. I don't doubt it would make a real difference > with the Intel com

Re: Pentium 4 Optimizations

2002-12-12 Thread Jean Francois Martinez
On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 04:02, Gary Sandine wrote: > On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 19:42, John wrote: > > However, if you wish to persist with building everything yourself, the > > the project for you is "Linux from Scratch." > > Perhaps Gentoo is more appropriate in this case than Red Hat? It's not > as e

Re: Pentium 4 Optimizations

2002-12-12 Thread Gary Sandine
> btw if a dual P4 isn't good enough, try dual Athlon. Apparently Athlons > eat Pentium IVs; sometimes even Durons outperform them. Dual P4 = dual Xeon, and a dual Xeon will thump on any dual Athlon system in any task I can think of. It used to be the case that uni-Athlon in general outperformed

Re: Pentium 4 Optimizations

2002-12-12 Thread Gary Sandine
On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 19:42, John wrote: > However, if you wish to persist with building everything yourself, the > the project for you is "Linux from Scratch." Perhaps Gentoo is more appropriate in this case than Red Hat? It's not as extreme an approach as LFS, but with Gentoo, one can easily co

Re: Pentium 4 Optimizations

2002-12-12 Thread John
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Tesla 13 wrote: > > > Even if I don't gain anything, I just don't want my binaries to run on a > > > bloody 386 SX. Period. > > > >If procinfo shows 91% idle (as it does on my Athlon), then how much is > >there to gain? 10% of 9% is bugger-all. > > I CPU used is about 3%. But

Re: Pentium 4 Optimizations

2002-12-12 Thread John
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Tesla 13 wrote: > >Mind you, a lot can easily be gained if you have a lot of computers. > > 32 to be exact! Better than 1, but I think you need hundreds, not tens, to get a payoff. However, optimising some few packages - XFree, your preferred wm, OOo if you use it may be wor

Re: Pentium 4 Optimizations

2002-12-12 Thread Tesla 13
> Even if I don't gain anything, I just don't want my binaries to run on a > bloody 386 SX. Period. If procinfo shows 91% idle (as it does on my Athlon), then how much is there to gain? 10% of 9% is bugger-all. I CPU used is about 3%. But that really is not the point as I explained above. Did

Re: Pentium 4 Optimizations

2002-12-12 Thread Tesla 13
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Re: Pentium 4 Optimizations

2002-12-12 Thread John
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Tesla 13 wrote: > Hello John, > > >What on earth do you hope to gain? > > Even if I don't gain anything, I just don't want my binaries to run on a > bloody 386 SX. Period. If procinfo shows 91% idle (as it does on my Athlon), then how much is there to gain? 10% of 9% is bu

Re: Pentium 4 Optimizations

2002-12-12 Thread John
On 12 Dec 2002, Florin Andrei wrote: > On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 14:09, John wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Tesla 13 wrote: > > > > > > I would like to adapt a Redhat 8.0 system to Pentium 4. The binaries, data, > > > files and everything will be used, run and compiled on P4. I have no issue > > >

Re: Pentium 4 Optimizations

2002-12-12 Thread John
On 12 Dec 2002, Florin Andrei wrote: > On a very busy web server, it makes sense to optimize httpd, but the > rest is a waste of time. > > Even then, I'm doubtful. More likely the bottleneck is the network interface. btw if a dual P4 isn't good enough, try dual Athlon. Apparently Athlons eat

Re: Pentium 4 Optimizations

2002-12-12 Thread Tesla 13
Hello John, What on earth do you hope to gain? Even if I don't gain anything, I just don't want my binaries to run on a bloody 386 SX. Period. It will takes days, maybe weeks on a single machine. gcc + glibc + kernel takes a mere 3 hours on my system to compile (2.66 GHz P4 OCed to 3.0, mo

Re: Pentium 4 Optimizations

2002-12-12 Thread Florin Andrei
On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 14:09, John wrote: > On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Tesla 13 wrote: > > > > I would like to adapt a Redhat 8.0 system to Pentium 4. The binaries, data, > > files and everything will be used, run and compiled on P4. I have no issue > > with compatability and I do not need anything to

Re: Pentium 4 Optimizations

2002-12-12 Thread Florin Andrei
On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 05:29, Tesla 13 wrote: > > I would like to adapt a Redhat 8.0 system to Pentium 4. The binaries, data, > files and everything will be used, run and compiled on P4. I have no issue > with compatability and I do not need anything to run on a 386, Pentium or > PIII -- only P4

Re: Pentium 4 Optimizations

2002-12-12 Thread John
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Tesla 13 wrote: > Hello Folks, > > I would like to adapt a Redhat 8.0 system to Pentium 4. The binaries, data, > files and everything will be used, run and compiled on P4. I have no issue > with compatability and I do not need anything to run on a 386, Pentium or > PIII --

Pentium 4 Optimizations

2002-12-12 Thread Tesla 13
Hello Folks, I would like to adapt a Redhat 8.0 system to Pentium 4. The binaries, data, files and everything will be used, run and compiled on P4. I have no issue with compatability and I do not need anything to run on a 386, Pentium or PIII -- only P4. Is there a location where I can read a