Re: next release

2002-04-29 Thread Michael Schwendt
On 2002-04-30, John Summerfield wrote: :[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: :> People also buy Red Hat Network entitlements that give them access to :> updated rpms and isos. : :I get updated packages without having to pay for them. Specifically I had the :recent sudo update (from amirror) before I saw the

Re: pthread_mutexattr_setpshared? Alternatives?

2002-04-29 Thread Yuval Kfir
Sorry for following up on my own post, but since I got no response I'm compelled to ask: is this the wrong list for such questions? If it is, what's the right one? On Thursday 25-Apr, I wrote: > Hello, > is there a way to create process-shared mutexes in Red Hat Linux 7.* ? > Currently, calling

Re: next release

2002-04-29 Thread Leonid Mamtchenkov
Dear Hetz Ben Hamo, Once you wrote about "Re: next release": HBH> > Presumably he's one who hopes that Red Hat will eventually understand that HBH> > its customers really do need to plan these things. HBH> HBH> And I would hope that maybe Red Hat will finally think about their business HBH> pla

Re: next release

2002-04-29 Thread Guy Fraser
John Summerfield wrote: >>--- Jure Pecar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>Hi, >>> >>>is there any ETA of the next release of RedHat? I >>>know that 'when it's >>>ready' is the best answer... >>> >>If you knew that was the best answer you were going to >>get, then why ask? >> >> > >Presumably he's

Re: Is skipjack 7.3 beta

2002-04-29 Thread Guy Fraser
Skipjack is beta: 1) It is downloaded from beta.redhat.com 2) When installing, the messages "Thank you for using RedHat beta software." also verify this. Guy Kevin Waterson wrote: >On Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:23:34 +0300 >Paul Dorneanu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>was that a question, or you had

Re: next release

2002-04-29 Thread James Olin Oden
> > > Presumably he's one who hopes that Red Hat will eventually understand that > > its customers really do need to plan these things. > > And I would hope that maybe Red Hat will finally think about their business > plan... > > Some how - with a ratio of 1000:10 (10 purchases for almost ever

RE: next release

2002-04-29 Thread Trevor
> GPL allows RH to charge a fee for supplying the product. It > doesn't HAVE to give > it away, though I could buy a set and run them off (like > Cheapbytes) or mount > them on my ftp server for all to download. It could charge a small fee for media costs [$2-$3/CD], but according to the GNU GPL

RE: next release

2002-04-29 Thread Trevor
> Check your facts. Microsoft doesn't sell support and most of the > time they > don't give support. They leave this one for your ISV, your computer > manufacturer, to your IT team, or to a consulting company. Yes they do... for larger companies anyway. For small businesses, Microsoft doesn't wa

Re: next release

2002-04-29 Thread John Summerfield
> > Considering the alternative (M$) who charges for the product and then > > charges more for supporting, many corporation's CFO's are starting to see > > the value in RH. > > Check your facts. Microsoft doesn't sell support and most of the time they > don't give support. They leave this one f

Re: next release

2002-04-29 Thread John Summerfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > People also buy Red Hat Network entitlements that give them access to > updated rpms and isos. I get updated packages without having to pay for them. Specifically I had the recent sudo update (from amirror) before I saw the announcement. How much sooner would I have

Re: next release

2002-04-29 Thread John Summerfield
> > > Support contracts are not that profitable (I know, I was in the > business).. > > Ahem... Maybe you weren't a very good salesman. I think that RedHat is > doing very well considering that they are giving away GPL product. > > Considering the alternative (M$) who charges for the product a

Re: next release

2002-04-29 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
On Tuesday 30 April 2002 00:19, Trevor wrote: > > Support contracts are not that profitable (I know, I was in the > > business).. > > Ahem... Maybe you weren't a very good salesman. I think that RedHat is > doing very well considering that they are giving away GPL product. I wasn't a salesman (I

Re: next release

2002-04-29 Thread Vladimir G. Ivanovic
People also buy Red Hat Network entitlements that give them access to updated rpms and isos. --- Vladimir Vladimir G. Ivanovichttp://leonora.org/~vladimir 2770 Cowper St. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palo Alto, CA 94306-2447

RE: next release

2002-04-29 Thread Trevor
> Support contracts are not that profitable (I know, I was in the business).. Ahem... Maybe you weren't a very good salesman. I think that RedHat is doing very well considering that they are giving away GPL product. Considering the alternative (M$) who charges for the product and then charges

Re: next release

2002-04-29 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
> Presumably he's one who hopes that Red Hat will eventually understand that > its customers really do need to plan these things. And I would hope that maybe Red Hat will finally think about their business plan... Some how - with a ratio of 1000:10 (10 purchases for almost every 1000 downloads

Re: next release

2002-04-29 Thread John Summerfield
> > --- Jure Pecar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > is there any ETA of the next release of RedHat? I > > know that 'when it's > > ready' is the best answer... > > If you knew that was the best answer you were going to > get, then why ask? > > Presumably he's one who hopes that Red

Re: Altering the MANPATH in RPM

2002-04-29 Thread James Olin Oden
> > > > James Olin Oden wrote: > > ><- SNIP -> > > I like the man.config.d idea, but I think gnu-man has a solution already > in place. > > In the man(1) page MANPATH_MAP and the NOAUTOPATH control the > automatic construction of MANPATH. > > if NOAUTOPATH is not set in /etc/man.config then

Re: Altering the MANPATH in RPM

2002-04-29 Thread Thomas Dodd
James Olin Oden wrote: ><- SNIP -> > >>IMHO, best way I can think would be to enhance GNU man to >>support include directory, like xinetd with /etc/xinetd.d, >>logrotate with /etc/logrotate.d etc. >> >>Thus patch it use /etc/man.config.d if it already doesn't >>and contrib to project :) >> I l

Re: glob'in the MANPATH (Was: Altering the MANPATH in RPM)

2002-04-29 Thread Riku Meskanen
On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, James Olin Oden wrote: > > I was first thinking making these better configurable options, > > but the package does not use recent autoconfigure, so I simply > > made patches active by default. NOCONFIGD and NOGLOB can > > consequtively disable the features if not desired. > >

Re: Is skipjack 7.3 beta

2002-04-29 Thread Peter Bowen
On Mon, 2002-04-29 at 06:52, Kevin Waterson wrote: > On Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:23:34 +0300 > > A question. Many seem of the opinion that skipjack is indeed a beta of 7.3 > I was unaware it was a beta release. I was thinking it was, as you say, > simply a 7.2.92 and 7.2.93 version. > > I have seen n

Re: Passing parameters with options to a C program

2002-04-29 Thread James Olin Oden
> > I need to pass some parameters to a C prorgam, but in the form >-i -o . > > There is another way than inspecting the String[] that comes > as parameter in main ? > If it is, please let me know, because i think it's better > than my solution!! ;-)) > Hi Javier, try:

Passing parameters with options to a C program

2002-04-29 Thread Javier Fradiletti
I need to pass some parameters to a C prorgam, but in the form -i -o . There is another way than inspecting the String[] that comes as parameter in main ? If it is, please let me know, because i think it's better than my solution!! ;-)) Regards, javier f. __

Re: glob'in the MANPATH (Was: Altering the MANPATH in RPM)

2002-04-29 Thread James Olin Oden
> > On Sat, 27 Apr 2002, Riku Meskanen wrote: > > > Ok, spent some more time on it and it config directory is > now fully functional with relevant IMHO security checks etc. > Thanks Riku. I will download them today and try them out. Also, as soon as I get a chance I will closely examine your pa

Re: Is skipjack 7.3 beta

2002-04-29 Thread Kevin Waterson
On Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:23:34 +0300 Paul Dorneanu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > was that a question, or you had a revelation? > as the version says it is a 7.2.92 and 7.2.93 version A question. Many seem of the opinion that skipjack is indeed a beta of 7.3 I was unaware it was a beta release. I wa

Re: Got SIGSEGV with man-1.5j-6.i386.rpm (rawhide)

2002-04-29 Thread Bill Crawford
On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Riku Meskanen wrote: > Howdy, > > Anybody out there get the same with std man command from rawhide? > > Or is it just me with 7.2 and upgraded man version from rawhide? > > [mesrik@tacit tmp]$ man -- > Segmentation fault ... > Bugzilla or not? Yes, it's in Bugzilla. I t

Re: Is skipjack 7.3 beta

2002-04-29 Thread Paul Dorneanu
was that a question, or you had a revelation? as the version says it is a 7.2.92 and 7.2.93 version Kevin Waterson wrote: >Is skipjack 7.3 beta > >kevin > > > ___ Redhat-devel-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailma

Is skipjack 7.3 beta

2002-04-29 Thread Kevin Waterson
Is skipjack 7.3 beta kevin ___ Redhat-devel-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-devel-list