Re: [RE-wrenches] PG&E NEM3.0

2025-01-14 Thread Mac Lewis via RE-wrenches
We are out of Colorado and I would encourage you to keep the discussion on wrenches because it will trickle our way in some form. Quite a few of our small cooperatives and Xcel are moving to TOU as well. CA is a huge market affecting everyone and driving solar technology as well as utility policy.

Re: [RE-wrenches] PG&E NEM3.0

2025-01-14 Thread William Miller via RE-wrenches
I will post a synopsis of the situation a little later today. William Miller Miller Solar.com 805-438-5600 www.millersolar.com On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 4:30 AM Mac Lewis via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > We are out of Colorado and I would encourage you to keep the di

Re: [RE-wrenches] PG&E NEM3.0

2025-01-14 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches
Sure count me in ! I like to learn as much as possible of how not to be like California. Most everyone who has left there tells me this also. Northern Nevada is 11.7 cents per KWH and is looking at new transmission lines to be independent of the folks to the west. Avoiding the NEM3.0 is prett

Re: [RE-wrenches] PG&E NEM3.0

2025-01-14 Thread Sam Haraldson via RE-wrenches
This list focuses primarily on solar and ESS technology and what is happening in California is going to drive that technology to do far more than its current, primary purpose of emergency backup. I live in Montana and it's only a matter of time before our utility adopts some form of time-of-use an

Re: [RE-wrenches] AGM battery recommendations

2025-01-14 Thread Nick Lucchese via RE-wrenches
Hello Ron, I've got 9 systems that fall under this category. Beginning with the Outback Energycell 200 RE installed back in 2015 to the newest Outback rebranded Northstar Blue batteries. No C/5 charge limitation solved some array expansion issues too. For a while the price per watt hour metric was

[RE-wrenches] ATS models to bypass GT hybrid inverters for maintenance/faults

2025-01-14 Thread Stuart Kriendler via RE-wrenches
Good day Wrenches, 2025 looks to be the year for installing more grid tied (GT) battery back up hybrid inverters on new and existing GT PV systems in a whole house backup scenario i.e. Utility - Hybrid Inverter - House Loads With these newer GT hybrids so 'sensitive', any fault on the PV side can

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generator Overvoltage Troubleshoot

2025-01-14 Thread William Miller via RE-wrenches
Jim: I am familiar with this case having worked with you on it. The client is an off-grid public school and reliability is very important to avoid disruption of curriculum. Various factors (tree cover on the site, maximum needs occurring during winter, proximity to the ocean creating frequent

[RE-wrenches] Obscure PG&E NEM 3 question for CA Wrenchers

2025-01-14 Thread David Coale via RE-wrenches
This is an obscure PG&E NEM 3 related question for the California Wrenchers, since no one out side CA - PG&E land might be able to answer this. I have a client with a 25 year old grid-tied system. When PG&E went to smart meters they declined (worried about EMF) and have been able to hold on to

Re: [RE-wrenches] Obscure PG&E NEM 3 question for CA Wrenchers

2025-01-14 Thread William Miller via RE-wrenches
David: I suspect it will be sooner rather than later the client will have to accept the NEM3 rates and a Smart meter. NEM3 is a time of use rate (metered down to the hour for export) and you can't do that with a mechanical meter. I imagine the concern is about RF data transmission. They may

Re: [RE-wrenches] PG&E NEM3.0

2025-01-14 Thread Antony Tersol via RE-wrenches
The official name is no longer NEM3.0. That's the unofficial term. It is no longer "Net Energy Metering", and is officially "Solar Billing Tariff" (SBT). The problem isn't TOU so much as no longer compensating at retail rates for exports. As related above, the compensation is supposed to be at s

Re: [RE-wrenches] ATS models to bypass GT hybrid inverters for maintenance/faults

2025-01-14 Thread Mac Lewis via RE-wrenches
Hi Stuart, The Kohler RDT switch is a much better switch for what you are doing; it is a power seeking switch with no accessory device communication needed. It is more expensive than the RXT switch because it has its own brain board. A Kohler tech can adjust the delays for you if needed but the d

Re: [RE-wrenches] ATS models to bypass GT hybrid inverters for maintenance/faults

2025-01-14 Thread Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches
Asco and kohler both are good, and have used them on AC coupled systems with great success. Ya l know AC coupled is not the ideal but in retrofitting it's very common unless you also can replace the inverter with something like Solark. On Tue, Jan 14, 2025, 11:10 AM Stuart Kriendler via RE-wrench

Re: [RE-wrenches] ATS models to bypass GT hybrid inverters for maintenance/faults

2025-01-14 Thread William Miller via RE-wrenches
Stuart: I understand the concern and appreciate the consideration to provide more reliability. The approach you suggested sounds like a band-aid, not a cure. I do not know if this complete shutdown is required by the listing (a feature) or is just a bug. Does anyone have information on this

Re: [RE-wrenches] ATS models to bypass GT hybrid inverters for maintenance/faults

2025-01-14 Thread August Goers via RE-wrenches
Hi Stuart, Got it, now I see you're working with the MidNite AIO. This ATS topic came up not too long ago and I posted that we used to have success with Briggs & Stratton ATS units back when we were installing SMA Sunny Island systems. The Briggs unit does not need a control from an external sourc

Re: [RE-wrenches] PG&E Nem3

2025-01-14 Thread Harry Mahon via RE-wrenches
William - I believe the chart you included is EXPORT rate only. So customer will not PAY > $3/kWh from 6-8 pm in Sep but whatever the TOU rate is as I think NEM3 customers are forced onto TOU - I think somewhere from $0.55-$0.60/kWh. (If they can dump their battery into the grid from 6-8 every

Re: [RE-wrenches] ATS models to bypass GT hybrid inverters for maintenance/faults

2025-01-14 Thread Stuart Kriendler via RE-wrenches
Thanks Jerry, very good to know. So the Kohler RXT ATS would automatically switch from Primary to Back up as soon as power is lost of primary? The documentation suggests that it 'must be connected to a generator set equipped with the Kohlerr RDC2 or DC2 generator/transfer switch controller' which

Re: [RE-wrenches] ATS models to bypass GT hybrid inverters for maintenance/faults

2025-01-14 Thread Stuart Kriendler via RE-wrenches
Much appreciated August, Yes, that fancy Enphase System Controller is a nice piece of kit, overseen a few of those and it is nice they pass through the grid power if there is an issue, most of the time. ;-) I'm in love with the MN AIO, the build quality is impressive and great value for money, wit

Re: [RE-wrenches] ATS models to bypass GT hybrid inverters for maintenance/faults

2025-01-14 Thread Ray Walters via RE-wrenches
I would also add that the Generac ATS is not made for this application, it is made to work with their generators only.  It connects to the generator control board for its voltage sensing, etc.  It can be "hot wired" to work with solar, but I had to add a small battery ( for 12 v power) and a sm

Re: [RE-wrenches] ATS models to bypass GT hybrid inverters for maintenance/faults

2025-01-14 Thread August Goers via RE-wrenches
Hi Stuart - Many grid tied PV/ESS manufacturers (Enphase, SolarEdge, Franklin, Tesla to name a few) now have a Microgrid Interconnect Device (MID) that essentially acts as a smart transfer switch thus eliminating the need for a 3rd party automatic transfer switch. What brands equipment are you loo

Re: [RE-wrenches] ATS models to bypass GT hybrid inverters for maintenance/faults

2025-01-14 Thread david quattro via RE-wrenches
I’ve been doing this for a few years now, but not on every install. They’re pretty expensive, more labor, one more component to fail, and takes up significant wall space/aesthetic factor. GENERAC transfer switch requires you to rig a separate 12v power supply, (normally this 12vdc comes from th

Re: [RE-wrenches] ATS models to bypass GT hybrid inverters for maintenance/faults

2025-01-14 Thread Daryl DeJoy via RE-wrenches
We tend to do this on every install in the Bahamas, except that we install a manual transfer switch instead of an automatic one. It's a bit of a (minor) pain for the customer, but a very reasonably priced add on as "emergency" backup. We haven't had any trouble selling the logic of it to the client