[RE-wrenches] replace part of rolls battery bank

2023-04-03 Thread Daniel Young via RE-wrenches
Hello Wrenches, Have a client with 24 x Rolls S550's. 2 of the batteries have given up the ghost. Rolls will replace them under the pro rated warranty. The issue us, the client is wanting to replace them with non Rolls batteries to save $. They can get 400AH 6V L-16 form factor FLA batteries fr

Re: [RE-wrenches] replace part of rolls battery bank

2023-04-03 Thread Howie Michaelson via RE-wrenches
Daniel, If it was me, I wouldn't do it. The biggest issue is that dissimilar batteries (as well as different age batteries) have different internal resistance. This will only exacerbate the problem with running multiple strings of batteries - that is they will charge and discharge at different ra

Re: [RE-wrenches] replace part of rolls battery bank

2023-04-03 Thread William Miller via RE-wrenches
Daniel: I feel your pain: In October of 2021 one of our off-grid clients had failed flooded L-16 batteries. We needed 16 replacement batteries and chose Rolls VRLA batteries. We could not get 16 due to supply chain constraints so we went for 8 with a back order for another 8. It took until M

Re: [RE-wrenches] replace part of rolls battery bank

2023-04-03 Thread Ray Walters via RE-wrenches
My 2 cents:  L16s are not a good choice in the first place. Compare the cycle life vs cost. 2nd that sounds like way too many batteries/ strings and definitely a candidate for larger format 2 v cells or Li+. I second William's idea of creating 2 strings of the best cells, and start shopping fo

Re: [RE-wrenches] replace part of rolls battery bank

2023-04-03 Thread jay via RE-wrenches
Hi Danny Lots of variables. As the warranty is over, that is no longer a concern to deal with The fact that you’ve had 2 go bad at the 5 year point, usually means you can expect other failures soon. There are 2 options I’ve done. 1. is to hi grade the battery bank into best 16 batteries, but

Re: [RE-wrenches] replace part of rolls battery bank

2023-04-03 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches
5 years old on 3 strings, it might not matter to mix, better get ready for a new bank. I have never used more than 1 string for my clients and get closer to 10 years life, so maybe there is better advice out there. Good Luck! Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar "we go where powerlines don't" http://

[RE-wrenches] Phased out Schneider Electric SCP

2023-04-03 Thread Mac Lewis via RE-wrenches
Hello Wrenches, Now that Schneider has phased out SCP, what are the options for a GUI onsite for non-savvy consumers? Thanks! -- Mac Lewis *"Yo solo sé que no sé nada." -Sócrates* ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues he

Re: [RE-wrenches] Phased out Schneider Electric SCP

2023-04-03 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches
You should tell Schneider this! I have been for a year now. There was not enough SCP memory for new XWP functions and a component became unavailable. The Connext Home and Facility are definitely not for the non savvy as you say. They are easy for most to install and the non savvy can have i

Re: [RE-wrenches] Phased out Schneider Electric SCP

2023-04-03 Thread Glenn Burt via RE-wrenches
Eric Benstennof SE demoed a pretty slick replacement that he cobbled together from off the shelf parts using a small tablet.I saw it in Jan at an Alt-E installer conference.I think I might have the details somewhere in my files, but it is basically an inexpensive android tablet, a USB charging w

Re: [RE-wrenches] Phased out Schneider Electric SCP

2023-04-03 Thread Maverick Brown via RE-wrenches
The key word there is Cobbled. The off grid or grid interactive (battery backup in case of grid down) world really needs to rely on a smart phone? Why couldn’t Schnieder go the extra step and put a display “with enough memory” to support legacy and XW Pro equipment on the Insight product family.