Re: [RE-wrenches] Test procedure for Concorde batteries

2016-09-06 Thread Tom Duffy
Larry It looks like the UPG batteries come from the same Chinese factory as well. We’re hoping the Trojan Reliant work out well with their re-introduction Q1 2017. AGM batteries seem to be the most misunderstood (after Gels) I have noticed the failure rate is higher than wet, I assume most folk

Re: [RE-wrenches] Test procedure for Concorde batteries

2016-09-06 Thread Tom Duffy
Hi Larry John Pfeifer at Apollo Solar sponsored the testing and now John has disappeared from the solar scene altogether. I don’t have any contact info for him. BTW the Concordes have been working without a hitch for eight years now. Kind regards Tom Duffy Senior Solar Design Engineer [New-Log

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wire nuts

2016-09-06 Thread Benn Kilburn
Jerry, Can you confirm that this was caused by a failure of the wire nut, itself, and not due to user error (not properly stripping enough jacket, inserting even length wires and sufficiently twisting on the wire nut) Benn Kilburn SkyFire Energy Inc. 780-906-7807 > On Sep 6, 2016, at 12:32 PM

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wire nuts

2016-09-06 Thread Jerry Shafer
All the other nuts are tight so l cant not say it was or not but l see this alot and this was one that was caught just at the right time. Jerry On Sep 6, 2016 8:44 AM, "Benn Kilburn" wrote: > Jerry, > Can you confirm that this was caused by a failure of the wire nut, itself, > and not due to use

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wire nuts

2016-09-06 Thread Benn Kilburn
The reason i'm asking is that the only time i have seen a short, first-hand, in a wire nut, was because it appeared that one wire was pushed down rather than binding with the other wire, which would have happened if the wires were not held tightly when the nut was twisted on. Also, it was a strand

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wire nuts

2016-09-06 Thread Glenn Burt
Be aware that SMA explicitly prohibits the use of wire nuts in their installation instructions on the DC input circuits. -Original Message- From: "Jerry Shafer" Sent: ‎9/‎6/‎2016 14:32 To: "RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org" Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Wire nuts Wrenches Better pic On

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wire nuts

2016-09-06 Thread MDElectricSolar .
I also concurr, NEVER use wire nuts on the roof, I've personally installed them, and come back 3-4 years later, and found them melted. Wire nuts are simply for insulating a splice, not to be counted on for the mechanical connection. I make my guys twist solid wire together before installing a wire

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wire nuts

2016-09-06 Thread August Goers
Are those wire nuts listed for wet locations? Most ideal outdoor (damp/wet) rated wire nuts are blue or grey in my experience. August Luminalt *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Benn Kilburn *Sent:* Tuesday, September 06, 2016 12:02 PM *To:*

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wire nuts

2016-09-06 Thread MDElectricSolar .
Yes, wire nuts, and loose connections are a big issue in AC circuits as well. One of my most frequent troubleshooting calls is tracing out loose/burnt/arcing connections behind receptacles and switches. Usually caused by sloppy workmanship, or contractors being in a hurry. Mike On Tue, Sep 6, 2016

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wire nuts

2016-09-06 Thread Chris Mason
The problem is that wire nuts are not intrinsically sound, a good connection depends on the skill of the craftsman. They are not legal under the British electrical code, where I did my training, wires need to be firmly held under a screw as in a terminal. The US would be better to get rid of these

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wire nuts

2016-09-06 Thread Jason Szumlanski
I was just called last week to a three phase Enphase system installed by others with three of eight strings that were exhibiting erratic voltages on random phases. First I checked the combiner panels and everything checked out. I went to the roof and discovered that wet rated wire nuts were used (r

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wire nuts

2016-09-06 Thread MDElectricSolar .
Again, I am using Buchannon copper crimp sleeves, with a Buchannon crimper, never seen one NOT work or go BAD. This is the best connection I have seen. I've never had an inspector open up my rooftop j-box/combiner box and ask about the listing of my connectors, but as a solar business owner who's r

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wire nuts

2016-09-06 Thread Ray Walters
1) I've used the Euro connectors you show for decades with good results. Not necessarily legal here, but I like them 2) Before bad mouthing the wire nuts, I've found installer error to almost always be the problem. In the installation pictured, the wire nuts are not outdoor rated, and the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wire nuts

2016-09-06 Thread August Goers
We’re using ideal/Buchanan splice cap crimp connectors as I’ve posted here a couple of times: http://www.idealind.com/ideal-electrical/us/en/products/wire-termination/60-crimp-connectors/copper-splice-cap-crimp-connectors.aspx We really like these in nearly every way. I just spoke with Ideal

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wire nuts

2016-09-06 Thread Benn Kilburn
August, et al, Do you have any issues with crimping the fine wires that are typically on a microinverter cable, to a coarse stranded or solid wire? Or, do you know if there is an issue with using these crimps with fine stranded wire? Benn Kilburn SkyFire Energy Inc. 780-906-7807 > On Sep 6, 2

[RE-wrenches] outback PS1 enclosures

2016-09-06 Thread jay
HI All, Anybody have any PS1 enclosures lying around they’d like to get rid of? Please let me know thanks jay Please respond off list ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email

Re: [RE-wrenches] RE-wrenches, Wire Nuts

2016-09-06 Thread ericstev
Wrenches, I would like to concur with Mike from MDElectricSolar. My rooftop junctions always use Buchanan copper sleeves crimped with the Buchanan C-24 crimp pliers. After twisting the stripped ends together to a length exceeding the sleeve length I apply No-Ox-ID A Special grease to the twist

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wire nuts

2016-09-06 Thread MDElectricSolar .
Never had an issue, they crimp fine. But just like with any electrical work, you must pay attention all day long! Mike On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Benn Kilburn wrote: > August, et al, > Do you have any issues with crimping the fine wires that are typically on > a microinverter cable, to a co

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wire nuts

2016-09-06 Thread Gary Willett
Mike: Without doing a lot of research, I seem to recall what you are stating about using the Buchanan splices is true if the PV wire, micro-inverter trunk cable, or DC optimizer fine stranded wire is 19 strands or less. Regards, Gary Willett Icarus Engineering LLC Sent from my iPhone 5s > On

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wire nuts

2016-09-06 Thread Glenn Burt
Do you mean beyond the NEC listing violation? -Original Message- From: "Benn Kilburn" Sent: ‎9/‎6/‎2016 19:21 To: "RE-wrenches" Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Wire nuts August, et al, Do you have any issues with crimping the fine wires that are typically on a microinverter cable, to a coar

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wire nuts

2016-09-06 Thread Mike Nelson
Sometimes the code is wrong.., Michael D Nelson MD Electric & Solar, Inc. 707-684-0064 mobile 707-884-1862 office www.mdelectricsolar.com Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 6, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Glenn Burt wrote: > > Do you mean beyond the NEC listing violation? > From: Benn Kilburn > Sent: ‎9/‎6/

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wire nuts

2016-09-06 Thread Shasta Daiku
Rooftop/Combiner splicing is a perfect application for the use of splice capped crimp sleeves. The other is where splices are subject to vibration. Their usage seems to vary throughout the country. In NW Oregon, where I came up in the trade, it was protocol to use them in places like rooftop con