Re: [RE-wrenches] 2v metal cased cells

2014-07-12 Thread Tump
Why would you NOT use the Surrette batteries. Far easier to move, up to 2400 Has@20 hr rate. Steel CONDUCTIVE/ RUSTING cases never made sense to me. The only reason I would use something steel would be the AGM when seismic security was required. On Jul 11, 2014, at 11:51 AM, jay peltz wrote: >

Re: [RE-wrenches] 2v metal cased cells

2014-07-12 Thread jay peltz
Hi all Yes good points. However I have good reason to believe that the dual plastic case batteries ( rolls or Trojan) act like good insulation. I'm working on some designs for the deep tropics and heat build up is a huge problem. Whether I use fans, water, or AC Units, I think that individua

Re: [RE-wrenches] Canadian Solar

2014-07-12 Thread Kristopher Schmid
Thanks for the input, folks. My client is very concerned about warranty disappearing if the company goes under and was attracted by their third party warranty. Solarworld is my usual go to module, but my client was not impressed with their stock history. Canadian Solar are Chinese? WTF? On Jul 1

Re: [RE-wrenches] 2v metal cased cells

2014-07-12 Thread Ray Walters
I put the batteries into a 30 " deep ground vault when possible. Earth temperature is much more stable. R.Ray Walters CTO, Solarray, Inc Nabcep Certified PV Installer, Licensed Master Electrician Solar Design Engineer 303 505-8760 On 7/12/2014 7:13 AM, jay peltz wrote: Hi all Yes good points

Re: [RE-wrenches] Canadian Solar

2014-07-12 Thread Jerry Shafer
Solar world is backed by a very large German company and is investigating expanding the manufacturing foot print they have, have you been to the factory, If not you need to go, in some cases you can take your customer too. They sell low output cells that they will not use to other manufactures. You

Re: [RE-wrenches] 2v metal cased cells

2014-07-12 Thread penobscotsolar
Jay, A couple of things. There is a source for the Surrette/Rolls as 2 volt cells in a single poly enclosure as opposed to the double, four volt cells. Contact me off list. We have been using these cells for more than 13 years in the Caribbean with great results. We do use ventilated batter

Re: [RE-wrenches] 2v metal cased cells

2014-07-12 Thread Phil Lawes
Just curious if fellow wrenches are looking at Li-on batteries. We were just quoted a 50KWHR at 48 volt battery pack with enclosure and BMS for $ 360.00 per KWHR or $0.36 per watt hour. -Original Message- From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Ray

Re: [RE-wrenches] 2v metal cased cells

2014-07-12 Thread Chris Schaefer
I too am a big fan of Surrette and what I’d be worried about is the sweating and/or moisture that would build up on the steel @ high humidity’s or high dew points. Christopher From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of jay peltz Sent: Saturday, July

Re: [RE-wrenches] 2v metal cased cells

2014-07-12 Thread Jerry Shafer
I have Surrettes, Industrial Hawkers FLA with steel cases, NiFe, Li-on and the traditional plastic case types. The Surrettes are a very easy to maintain battery little water use and stays clean.The steel case seams to need cleaning allot more, goes through more water but also have the a great life

Re: [RE-wrenches] Canadian Solar

2014-07-12 Thread Kristopher Schmid
I have been to the factory, Jerry and was very impressed. That's why i use them whenever possible. On Jul 12, 2014 11:27 AM, "Jerry Shafer" wrote: > Solar world is backed by a very large German company and is investigating > expanding the manufacturing foot print they have, have you been to the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Canadian Solar

2014-07-12 Thread Benn Kilburn
I believe CanadianSolar offers made in canada mods as well as their overseas ones. He province of Ontario has a FIT program (feed-in tariff) that has a certain percentage of domestic content requirement, meaning if mfgrs want their products used in Ontario then they must produce that produce

[RE-wrenches] Canadian Solar

2014-07-12 Thread Marco Mangelsdorf
Canadian Solar actually does manufacture modules in Canada. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/breakthrough/canadian-solar-success-story-faces-new-challenge/article14388049/ Yes, SolarWorld….I don’t know of any other PV manufacturer that has lost more money in a several year

Re: [RE-wrenches] Canadian Solar

2014-07-12 Thread Marco Mangelsdorf
A not so large German company that’s been bleeding money for the past three years and whose stock value is in the toilet. Caveat emptor. From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Kristopher Schmid Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 10:26 AM To: RE-wrenches

Re: [RE-wrenches] Canadian Solar

2014-07-12 Thread RE Ellison
Hard to hold off Chinese panels at fire sale prices. I am sort of surprised there are any manufacturers left that are not out of China! Later, Bob Ellison From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Marco Mangelsdorf Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 6:5

Re: [RE-wrenches] Canadian Solar

2014-07-12 Thread Jerry Shafer
Buyer beware the next wave may be India On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 5:15 PM, RE Ellison wrote: > Hard to hold off Chinese panels at fire sale prices. I am sort of > surprised there are any manufacturers left that are not out of China! > > > > Later, > > Bob Ellison > > > > *From:* RE-wrenches [mail

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lithium Ion Battery....was 2v metal cased cells

2014-07-12 Thread Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems
$360/kWh is a good price. Can you share the brand with us or email me off list? We sell Li-ion (LFMP) at our store but I include a CPU, protection solenoids, battery capacity meter and video display. My dealer cost is quite a bit higher than you were quoted. Larry On Jul 12, 2014, at 11:42 AM