Re: [RE-wrenches] smaller 3-phase commercial inverters

2013-10-18 Thread Chris Mason
Probably because these small three phase inverters are adapted European designs. In Europe, three phase 415 is normal. The Tripowers have an upper voltage range of 480V so adapting them to the US is pretty easy. To adapt to 208, all the power boards, terminals, and cabling would need to be twice th

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fronius Installer Support Sucks- but who else?

2013-10-18 Thread Garrison Riegel
For 240 high-leg delta systems we typically use multiples of 3 SunnyBoys, which do not require a neutral connection. Without the neutral the high leg is not an issue. For smaller systems a single SunnyBoy also works well connected to phases A and C. While the utility company may not be a fan

[RE-wrenches] 3 Phase Inverters on 240 With Stinger

2013-10-18 Thread Mark Byington
Don wrote - "Is the Fronius 11.4-3 the only 3-phase inverter that can work with 240 3-phase with a hi-leg (stinger)?" Well I don't know about other brands, but can guarantee that the SMA 10TL doesn't work on a 240 Delta with high leg, because we got burned by that. Had to change two of the

Re: [RE-wrenches] GTBB resistance

2013-10-18 Thread Phil Undercuffler
Great news, everyone -- the assigned commissioner ruling (ACR) for battery based NEM eligibility has been released last night, and it looks very positive. The ACR would "give storage devices meeting the Guidebook requirements the same benefits available to renewable generating facilities under NEM

Re: [RE-wrenches] smaller 3-phase commercial inverters

2013-10-18 Thread Chris Mason
The Aurora 10K PVI are available in 208V. http://www.power-one.com/sites/power-one.com/files/documents/renewable-energy/datasheet/pvi-100-i-nadatasheet.pdf On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 12:31 AM, Marco Mangelsdorf wrote: > Yeah, lots more choices out there in the 10+ to 30 kW rangeā€¦.but pretty > much

Re: [RE-wrenches] smaller 3-phase commercial inverters

2013-10-18 Thread August Goers
Chris, Good point, we've installed a few of these P1 10k units and have been relatively happy. My understanding is that the first batch being sold in the US was very problematic but I think they're ironing out the kinks now. We have had a couple of failures but P1 tech support swapped them with

Re: [RE-wrenches] smaller 3-phase commercial inverters

2013-10-18 Thread Bill Brooks
Marco, Besides the good responses you have already received, 20-30kW, 480V machines are really targeting larger installations that would be on facilities with 480V. I would generally not build a system with 480V inverters on a 208V service. For large systems, there are large inverters runnin

Re: [RE-wrenches] smaller 3-phase commercial inverters

2013-10-18 Thread August Goers
Hi Bill - Thanks, this is helpful info. Do you know how to calculate or approximate how we would keep the unbalanced voltage to less than 3%? I guess I need to check out ANSI/C84.1-2011 but I thought maybe there are some ballpark rules of thumb. Thanks, August *August Goers* Luminalt