Re: [RE-wrenches] How do we wrenches provide pertinent advice? (was120% rule applying to conductors)

2012-10-01 Thread Drake
From 90.4 "By special permission, the authority having jurisdiction may waive specific requirements in this Code or permit alternative methods where it is assured that equivalent objectives can be achieved by establishing and maintaining effective safety." At 04:15 PM 9/30/2012, you wrote:

Re: [RE-wrenches] How do we wrenches provide pertinent advice? (was120% rule applying to conductors)

2012-10-01 Thread Mark Frye
Exactly, Another fine example of how the Code works. Anyone out there have the definition of "special permission". Any changes have to go back to the NFPA? Really the buck stops at the quasi-judicial authority of the head of the building department. Inspectors are the bearers of that author

Re: [RE-wrenches] How do we wrenches provide pertinent advice? (was120% rule applying to conductors)

2012-10-01 Thread Drake
Right. The NFPA doesn't have any authority in itself. It is a private corporation. Local municipalities adopt the NEC at their own discretion. At 10:44 AM 10/1/2012, you wrote: Exactly, Another fine example of how the Code works. Anyone out there have the definition of "special permission"

Re: [RE-wrenches] How do we wrenches provide pertinent advice? (was120% rule applying to conductors)

2012-10-01 Thread Exeltech
Look inside the Code book. Page 1, at the bottom. Last paragraph on that page, which begins: "This Code is purely advisory as far as NFPA is concerned." Dan --- On Mon, 10/1/12, Drake wrote: > From: Drake > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] How do we wrenches provide pertinent advice? > (was12

[RE-wrenches] SunSlates from Atlantis Energy

2012-10-01 Thread Aladdin Solar
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Re: [RE-wrenches] How do we wrenches provide pertinent advice? (was120% rule applying to conductors)

2012-10-01 Thread William Miller
Dan: The NEC is purely advisory until a political jurisdiction (city, county or state) adopts it and makes compliance mandatory pursuant to obtaining a final inspection clearance. This discussion raises some intriguing questions: Do we really think building departments want to incur liabilit

Re: [RE-wrenches] How do we wrenches provide pertinent advice? (was120% rule applying to conductors)

2012-10-01 Thread Exeltech
William, My point exactly. Unfortunately, vocal inflection isn't easily incorporated into typed text. For an "advisory only" document, it has, in essence become the "law of the land" (as we're acutely aware), however subject to the whim and interpretation of the nationwide AHJ hierarchy and thei

Re: [RE-wrenches] SunSlates from Atlantis Energy

2012-10-01 Thread Dan Fink
Never heard of them, but there's something VERY fishy on their webpage.scroll down to their "Tall Slates", 2nd photo.the a-frame roof. I've been using this stock NREL photo since 2009 in my PV / Firefighter safety class. I believe this is its origin -- 2006, SunPower press release for thei