Re: [RE-wrenches] Code "Authorities"

2009-06-08 Thread robert ellison
I attended one of Mr Wiles seminars years ago and the pics of his system were truly ugly. That would have been an embarrassment with those of us who take the time to make things look good as well as be code legal. I also found him to be arrogant and opinionated. That's just my opinion of course, bu

Re: [RE-wrenches] Code "Authorities"

2009-06-08 Thread Drake Chamberlin
There are issues with some combiner boxes, when the fuse holders are opened under load. The current can (reportedly) make a continuous arc across the contacts. This is true for the higher voltages, for grid tie inverters, and would be true for AC coupled off grid systems. Maybe 100 V would n

Re: [RE-wrenches] Code "Authorities"

2009-06-08 Thread Brian Crise
Gentleman, I could tell you the reason why the Code panel was disbanded (reassigned) by NFPA. I was on the panel since 2002 and am on the current 2011 CMP #4. Panel 13 had jurisdiction over several articles including PV. Two of the issues (Article 695, Fire Pumps, and Article 700, Emerg

Re: [RE-wrenches] 690.47D (revisited)

2009-06-08 Thread I2P
In a message dated 6/6/2009 5:37:17 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, joel.david...@sbcglobal.net writes: Hi Don, In 1983 Arco Solar and the Lightning & Transients Research Institute, St. Paul, MN, presented a paper at the Greece PV conference titled "Ability of Photovoltaic Modules to Withsta

Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing

2009-06-08 Thread I2P
In a message dated 6/7/2009 1:45:42 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, electrich...@yahoo.com writes: If we buy power from the utility per kW, my vision is some day we can orchestrate the same. This will greatly improve our field of interest and everyone benefits when performace meets the expecta

Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing

2009-06-08 Thread Keith Cronin
Yes Don, thanks for the added "h" From: "i...@aol.com" To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Monday, June 8, 2009 7:39:39 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing In a message dated 6/7/2009 1:45:42 P.M. Pacific Dayli

Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing

2009-06-08 Thread Keith Cronin
Joel Chinese quality will improve for sure and trust is something we ought to get used to. The Chinese own more US Treasuries than anyone breathing on this globe, so we are married at the wallet. If our government can have this type of relationship, it is only going to "grow" as time moves forw

Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing

2009-06-08 Thread Antony Tersol
So if we should choose to ignore the humanitarian issues, and just approach it from a financial sense, how does sourcing Chinese modules improve our balance of payments? Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 11:13:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Keith Cronin Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and

Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing

2009-06-08 Thread Keith Cronin
Andy, et al Good questions. The humanitarian one first. If we use a computer or cell phone, we are probably contributing to the problem daily as these devices are made there. The list of items we manu there is growing that we all seem to use in our daily existence. This is a difficult and perso

Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing

2009-06-08 Thread August Goers
Wrenches, I agree with Bill Brooks on the risks of purchasing from smaller less established companies. From what I understand these modules are basically hand made and QC along with material selection can make a major difference in longevity. I worked in a Chinese foreign partnership for a

[RE-wrenches] If anyone has input from an installer friend...

2009-06-08 Thread craig gerald buttke
installers, so as to not reivent the wheel. any experience with connecting a grid PV system on the load side of an automatic transfer switch?? fronius ig plus or sma's either one. the genset is a natural gas that modulates with load-- so it is a step up from a menards portable type. assuming t

Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing

2009-06-08 Thread Antony Tersol
"Our foreign deficit to them will continue, as our national debt was 41% of the economy last year.now this is unsustainable...we are over leveraged as a society as a whole." "On the economics equation- sure vote with your wallet to improve the balance of payments and perhaps your c

Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing

2009-06-08 Thread Michael Welch
Hi gang. Let's move the non-wrenching issues somewhere else, please, like the RE-Bitching list. Thanks, and if you have any questions or concerns about this please contact me off-list. ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenc