Re: [RE-wrenches] PV excellent battery charger

2010-03-27 Thread Darryl Thayer
wrote: From: Warren Lauzon Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] PV excellent battery charger To: "RE-wrenches" Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 10:55 AM To be honest, I don't think the question makes any sense. There are several "right" answers, but no good ones. I hope t

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV excellent battery charger

2010-03-27 Thread R Ray Walters
wer! But you knew that. > > Larry Crutcher > Starlight Solar Power Systems > (928) 342-9103 > > Mailing Address: > 11881 S. Fortuna Road, #210 > Yuma, AZ 85367 > > Retail Store & Shipping Address: > 2998 Shari Ave. > Yuma, Az 85365 > > > - Original

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV excellent battery charger

2010-03-27 Thread Warren Lauzon
s Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] PV excellent battery charger Hi Dave, At 10:44 AM 3/26/2010, you wrote: Is the answer here (at least the one that NABCEP intends) just that the VMP of a "12V module" is higher than the voltage of a

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV excellent battery charger

2010-03-27 Thread Drake Chamberlin
Hi Dave, At 10:44 AM 3/26/2010, you wrote: Is the answer here (at least the one that NABCEP intends) just that the VMP of a "12V module" is higher than the voltage of a 12V battery? With the higher voltage it will charge the battery with its corresponding current based on the I-V curve. The ob

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV excellent battery charger

2010-03-26 Thread Dave Click
Is the answer here (at least the one that NABCEP intends) just that the VMP of a "12V module" is higher than the voltage of a 12V battery? With the higher voltage it will charge the battery with its corresponding current based on the I-V curve. The objective reads "Explain why PV modules make e

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV excellent battery charger

2010-03-26 Thread bob
clude owner abuse or neglect, we all see that. Later, Bob -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of R Ray Walters Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:59 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] PV

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV excellent battery charger

2010-03-25 Thread Starlight Solar Power Systems
olar Power Systems (928) 342-9103 Mailing Address: 11881 S. Fortuna Road, #210 Yuma, AZ 85367 Retail Store & Shipping Address: 2998 Shari Ave. Yuma, Az 85365 - Original Message - From: "R Ray Walters" To: "RE-wrenches" Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 10:51 PM Subje

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV excellent battery charger

2010-03-25 Thread R Ray Walters
On Mar 25, 2010, at 5:55 AM, Warren Lauzon wrote: > Actually, PV is not a particularly excellent battery charger, What is better than a properly sized array with the latest controllers? > > Everything else mentioned can be done by any decent AC battery charger. True, but at great expense. Th

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV excellent battery charger

2010-03-25 Thread R Ray Walters
Of course, the MPPT makes the PV array behave like a larger array, but that's comparing MPPT to non- MPPT, I thought you were comparing PV to a regular AC charger. R. Walters r...@solarray.com Solar Engineer On Mar 25, 2010, at 4:40 AM, drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org wrote: > My under

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV excellent battery charger

2010-03-25 Thread Warren Lauzon
sday, March 25, 2010 3:40 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] PV excellent battery charger My understanding is that the voltage, in excess of battery voltage, from the array, represents energy that is dissipated as heat in the batteries. This extra voltage, multiplied by the amperage is wattage. This e

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV excellent battery charger

2010-03-25 Thread drake . chamberlin
My understanding is that the voltage, in excess of battery voltage, from the array, represents energy that is dissipated as heat in the batteries. This extra voltage, multiplied by the amperage is wattage. This extra power can produce more amps at a reduced voltage. It is amperage that charges th

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV excellent battery charger

2010-03-24 Thread R Ray Walters
MPPT doesn't really do that much for the battery, it just makes the PV modules more effective. The real magic is: A) the 3 stage charging (compared to traditional single stage AC chargers) B) Temperature compensation C) PWM that helps pulse off sulfation D) Slower charge rates let batteries charg