Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs

2010-09-20 Thread August Goers
*From:* re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Joel Davidson *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 6:26 PM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs Wrenches, Allan Sindelar's 2003 RE-Wrenches light

Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs

2010-09-17 Thread Joel Davidson
: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs Jay - I can see that point, but does that really effect insurance payout? It seems like one could argue that a properly installed system with proper grounding inspected by a building official has a lot more clout than and little grey cylinder next to the invert

Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs

2010-09-14 Thread R Ray Walters
My own limited field experience in lightning country (New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, Texas, Oklahoma), has definitely proven your point. Grounding and testing of the grounding system is the first line of attack against lightning. Also, showing an insurance company (and the customer) ground impeda

Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs

2010-09-14 Thread August Goers
Jay - I can see that point, but does that really effect insurance payout? It seems like one could argue that a properly installed system with proper grounding inspected by a building official has a lot more clout than and little grey cylinder next to the inverter or disconnect. Please all wrenche

Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs

2010-09-14 Thread jay peltz
I also live in a area without much lightning, however I install one in most systems for the simple reason of insurance. If there is lightning damage, the insurance company can't use that as a way to not pay any claims. ie cheap insurance. jay peltz power On Sep 14, 2010, at 8:39 AM, August Goer

Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs

2010-09-14 Thread Joel Davidson
the CE mark requirements and DIY. From: Mick Abraham To: RE-wrenches Sent: Tue, September 14, 2010 12:17:34 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs Citel products do have a listing mark but this is European style CE, not American style UL/ETL. Citel is

Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs

2010-09-14 Thread Dave Click
ssage Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs From: Mick Abraham To: RE-wrenches Date: 2010/9/14 15:17 Citel products do have a listing mark but this is European style CE, not American style UL/ETL. Citel is reputedly working on American certification but one would be advised to not hold

Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs

2010-09-14 Thread Mick Abraham
r > 864 Clam Falls Trail > Frederic, WI 54837 > 715-653-4295 > sol...@legacysolar.com > www.legacysolar.com > > -Original Message- > *From:* re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto: > re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *August Goers >

Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs

2010-09-14 Thread R Ray Walters
...@legacysolar.com > www.legacysolar.com > > -Original Message- > From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org > [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of August Goers > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:39 AM > To: RE-wrenches > Subject: Re

Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs

2010-09-14 Thread Kristopher Schmid
: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs All - I guess my thought is a little off topic, but are lightning arrestors even worth using at all? My logic has always been that if lightning does indeed strike that it's likely going to blow the arrestor and and inverter. We don't have

Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs

2010-09-14 Thread Kelly Keilwitz
All, Our AHJ's started making us take the Deltas out a couple of years ago, as they are not listed equipment. We kept ordering them for awhile, thinking they were necessary, cheap insurance, intending to return after the inspection and put 'em in. We now have a large, dusty stack of uninstalled LA'

Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs

2010-09-14 Thread August Goers
All - I guess my thought is a little off topic, but are lightning arrestors even worth using at all? My logic has always been that if lightning does indeed strike that it's likely going to blow the arrestor and and inverter. We don't have much of a lightning issue issue in the Bay Area so I don't

Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs

2010-09-14 Thread Nick Soleil
Hi Kristopher: How about not using them. I refer to lightning arrestors as lightning faeries. We install them to make us feel safe. They are there to protect our equipment, but we aren't really sure if they work. They are inexpensive enough to install, but don't really do anything. When