Re: [RE-wrenches] Charging AGM Batteries

2009-09-21 Thread Marv Dargatz
n Sat, 9/19/09, Hugh wrote: From: Hugh Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Charging AGM Batteries To: "RE-wrenches" Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 4:21 AM It seems to me that you really need to have a controller that monitors the state of charge in order to do a good job of re

Re: [RE-wrenches] Charging AGM Batteries

2009-09-19 Thread Bruce Geddes
The serious commercial chargers have a deltaI/deltat (current vs temperature) alogorithm to detect when electrolysis of the electrolyte begins to occur. Failing that, a Pout vs Pin alogorithm is next best. Both these make for an expensive controller which is hard to justify in domestic system

Re: [RE-wrenches] Charging AGM Batteries

2009-09-19 Thread Darryl Thayer
: > From: Hugh > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Charging AGM Batteries > To: "RE-wrenches" > Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 4:21 AM > It seems to me that you really need > to have a controller that monitors the state of charge in > order to do a good job of recharging s

Re: [RE-wrenches] Charging AGM Batteries

2009-09-19 Thread Hugh
It seems to me that you really need to have a controller that monitors the state of charge in order to do a good job of recharging sealed batteries. If they are low then you can push the voltage up but if they are in an intermediate indeterminate state as with most small renewable energy syste

Re: [RE-wrenches] Charging AGM Batteries

2009-09-15 Thread Mick Abraham
I suggest that high rate recharge could be safely done but only with a charge algorithm more sophisticated than what is commonly found in renewable energy gear. The chargers typically found in our industry deliver the same "bulk" charge amperage from initiation of the recharge all the way to when

Re: [RE-wrenches] Charging AGM Batteries

2009-09-15 Thread Walt Ratterman
Peter, The DEKA charging manual that I have been working from for their sealed batteries (AGM and Gel) quote 30% of C20. And….DEKA’s literature also has a maximum charging voltage of 2.35 VPC. Not sure about the other brands. Thanks, Walt From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-w

Re: [RE-wrenches] Charging AGM Batteries

2009-09-15 Thread Tump
s.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Bell, Steve Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:42 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Charging AGM Batteries Hi Peter, At least some AGM’s (like the Concorde) can handle very aggressive charging rates, provided you have good temperature compensation t

Re: [RE-wrenches] Charging AGM Batteries

2009-09-15 Thread jay peltz
HI Peter, I don't know of any sealed that go above the 14.4v/12v setpoints. And most I've seen a 14.2 ish. That said I have seen eq recommendations for industrial sealed, but with very controlled conditions. above 14.4 it will start to gas just like a wet battery. jay peltz power On Sep 15,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Charging AGM Batteries

2009-09-15 Thread Bell, Steve
Hi Peter, At least some AGM's (like the Concorde) can handle very aggressive charging rates, provided you have good temperature compensation to reduce the possibility of a thermal runaway. Also the 14.6 VDC is a little higher than recommended, at least for the Concorde brand. 14.4 VDC (2