Re: [RE-wrenches] tankless hot water and pumping question

2008-11-15 Thread Karl Schwingel
-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] tankless hot water and pumping question Hi Todd and all, Since this is a renewable energy list, I think it's worth mentioning that installing a modulating demand heater will make the installation "solar ready". I'm only aware of one t

Re: [RE-wrenches] tankless hot water and pumping question

2008-11-14 Thread Allan Sindelar
rt. Allan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Undercuffler Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 11:03 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] tankless hot water and pumping question off grid with water being trucked in and stored in a groun

Re: [RE-wrenches] tankless hot water and pumping question

2008-11-14 Thread Phil Undercuffler
off grid with water being trucked in and stored in a ground level polyethylene tank. My building inspector does not allow grade level tanks as the warm temp adds to bacteria growth. I agree with Darryl about putting the tanks underground, otherwise they become veritable cornucopia of bugs a

Re: [RE-wrenches] tankless hot water and pumping question

2008-11-14 Thread Ian Woofenden
ED] On Behalf Of Ian Woofenden Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 12:05 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] tankless hot water and pumping question Hi Todd and all, Since this is a renewable energy list, I think it's worth mentioning that installing a modulating demand heater will make t

Re: [RE-wrenches] tankless hot water and pumping question

2008-11-14 Thread Conrad Geyser
ge- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Woofenden Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 12:05 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] tankless hot water and pumping question Hi Todd and all, Since this is a renewable energy list, I think it's worth mentioning

Re: [RE-wrenches] tankless hot water and pumping question

2008-11-14 Thread Matt Tritt
Title: Todd Cory Todd, Having already mentioned my using the Bosch Aquastar (I'm completely happy with it), your original question was concerning a good 24 volt pressre pump, I believe. The best one I know of is one that we sell, so I think it would be best to contact me off-list - or on the m

Re: [RE-wrenches] tankless hot water and pumping question

2008-11-14 Thread Matt Tritt
Ian, I have a Bosch Aquastar hydro-ignition unit, but no solar feed. I originally had a Myson tankless heater (you probably remember them) that I bought with the misunderstanding that it would modulate according to input temp, but the standing pilot was kind of a drag, even if the unit might

Re: [RE-wrenches] tankless hot water and pumping question

2008-11-14 Thread Ian Woofenden
Hi Todd and all, Since this is a renewable energy list, I think it's worth mentioning that installing a modulating demand heater will make the installation "solar ready". I'm only aware of one tankless heater that accepts pre-heated water and has no electrical usage, and that's the Bosch 16

Re: [RE-wrenches] tankless hot water and pumping question

2008-11-14 Thread robert ellison
ar the contortionist effort > experienced with a tank and provides the savings of no pilot gas usage when > not working. > > Good luck, > > Bill Loesch > Solar 1 - Saint Louis Solar > > - Original Message - > *From:* Todd Cory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *To:

Re: [RE-wrenches] tankless hot water and pumping question

2008-11-14 Thread Bill Loesch
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 7:58 PM Subject: [RE-wrenches] tankless hot water and pumping question I am working on a semi-volunteer job for a local non-profit. It is off grid with water being trucked in and stored in a ground level polyethylene tank. I need recommendations for:

Re: [RE-wrenches] tankless hot water and pumping question

2008-11-13 Thread Jonathan Hill
Todd- We've used the Flojet 24 volt quad pump, or a Flowlight Booster pump for longer life. The tankless water heater you want is the Aquastar 1600H. Contact me for more info. Jon Hill Sierra Solar Systems On Nov 13, 2008, at 5:58 PM, Todd Cory wrote: I am working on a semi-volunteer job fo

Re: [RE-wrenches] tankless hot water and pumping question

2008-11-13 Thread Allan Sindelar
to that. Certainly a large pressure tank(s) will allow you to exceed the pump's flow rate until the PT reaches cut-in. Allan -Original Message- From: Todd Cory [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 7:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-

Re: [RE-wrenches] tankless hot water and pumping question

2008-11-13 Thread Tom Elliot
s minimal. That system was bulletproof for us in very cold Colorado high country winters. Tom - Original Message - From: Todd Cory To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; RE-wrenches Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] tankless hot water and pumpin

Re: [RE-wrenches] tankless hot water and pumping question

2008-11-13 Thread Darryl Thayer
, rather than an AC that requires the operation of the inverter. Darryl --- On Thu, 11/13/08, robert ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: robert ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] tankless hot water and pumping question > To: "RE-wrenches"

Re: [RE-wrenches] tankless hot water and pumping question

2008-11-13 Thread robert ellison
Direct pumping probably not satasify the water heaters flow requirements. There is a 3.3 GPM version in 24 volt DC Bob On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Todd Cory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Thanks for the recommendation. Does this unit need an external pressure > switch or is that integral? Doe

Re: [RE-wrenches] tankless hot water and pumping question

2008-11-13 Thread robert ellison
Todd, I have had good luck with systems like this using a Shurflo 120 volt pump 3.3 GPM but the 24 volt is simular. If you feed them from a standing tank they seem to pump well over spec and hang around for a long time. Run the output to as big a pressure tank as you can get. The larger the better,

Re: [RE-wrenches] tankless hot water and pumping question

2008-11-13 Thread Todd Cory
Title: Message Thanks for the recommendation. Does this unit need an external pressure switch or is that integral? Does these work w/o an expansion tank or will they cycle on/off excessively set up in a direct pumping situation? Todd Allan Sindelar wrote: Todd, The Shurflo 2088-

Re: [RE-wrenches] tankless hot water and pumping question

2008-11-13 Thread Allan Sindelar
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Cory Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 6:59 PM To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: [RE-wrenches] tankless hot water and pumping question I am working on a semi-volunteer job for a local non-profit. It

[RE-wrenches] tankless hot water and pumping question

2008-11-13 Thread Todd Cory
Title: Todd Cory I am working on a semi-volunteer job for a local non-profit. It is off grid with water being trucked in and stored in a ground level polyethylene tank. I need recommendations for: 1) A 24 volt DC pressure pump. This is a single residence so can be relatively low volume as it