In the mountains, we also recommend propane for the startability factor,
but if weather permits, or they have an indoor gen setup, Biodiesel can
be very environmentally friendly.
I've seen some old Lister Petter diesel units that just seemed like
they'll never stop. Not a lot of electronics to
it sounds like my experience with this company about 10 years ago when i
installed one of their 8 kW units as a grid back up for a customer. the battery
charger was wired wrong out of the box... and they would not help me with
troubleshooting... so i figured it out on my own. about 6 months lat
I'm not a generator guy but had to supply a couple of generators for a contract
last year. I had a look at the Generac EcoGen and liked what I saw. Additional
reading confirmed that others felt positive about the EcoGen so I got a
dealership. One year later here's my take on it - and unfortunate
Jay,
Other than the two items mentions, lower BTU's and altitude derate, I know of
no other reason for LP to have lower output. If it is in the budget, I always
oversize a generator after derating so it does not operate above 70% load. I do
this for longer engine life as I imagine a fully load
We recommend propane to all our clients in New England simply because
in the winter a propane gennie starts without the need for a block
heater or special diesel storage. Reliability is preferred over price
when it comes to needing charging after a week of cloudy, snowy
weather. Many of my clien
Hi guys
Right on all accounts but I continue to hear that propane/nat gas is further
derated than the liquid fuels.
Or is this just bad info?
Thx
Jay
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On Jan 30, 2013, at 12:44 PM, "Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems"
wrote:
> Jay,
>
> In addition to what D
Jay,
In addition to what Dan has said, 1 gallon of propane has about 35% less BTU's
compared to 1 gallon of gasoline. So the propane derating must be added to the
altitude derate to determine generator output.
Larry Crutcher
Starlight Solar Power Systems
On Jan 30, 2013, at 1:32 PM, Dan F
Jay;
The "standard" seems to be 2-3% derate for every 1000 feet above sea level
for gasoline, diesel or LP gas generators, and supposedly more like 5% for
natural gas. (in general we don't work in areas that have natural gas
service, we only do off-grid). So the propane de-rate for altitude is no
w
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Sent: January 29, 2013 7:40 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: [RE-wrenches] generator suggestions
wrenches,
i am working on a design for an off grid camp. they need a new generator as the
one they have is a total pos.
i am interested in suggestions for a commercial grade, 10 to 15 kW propa
Ray,
Everything has changed. The Kohler 6.5RMY and the Onan 6.5
Commercial were wonderful units, but also both flathead twins,
eventually discontinued for efficiency and emissions reasons, as I
came to understand. Also, the American residential market was (and
Hi Dan
So true. But never had it explained to me why propane is different than
gasoline or diesel at altitude.
Thx
Jay
Peltz power
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On Jan 30, 2013, at 11:42 AM, Dan Fink wrote:
> And because of our Colorado location here, we are always dealing with
> altitude de-rate f
And because of our Colorado location here, we are always dealing with
altitude de-rate factors. We are usually installing at 7000 - 1 feet
elevation, which is a big hit. Propane de-rates gennys even further.
--
Dan Fink,
Executive Director;
Otherpower
Buckville Energy Consulting
Buckville Publ
> Hi all
I've found through hard experience that all generators except diesels seem to
be smaller than name plate rating.
And while the charging maybe reduced if I am conservative in telling the
inverter how large the genny is I rarely get the genny to trip its breaker.
Jay
Peltz power
Ray,
With over 25 years of installing off grid PV systems I feel like
Generac is the only company I've seen who has looked at the needs
(cost,reliability, stable output, auto start, 120 VAC output) of the
small to medium size off grid PV system and designed an affordable and
so far seemingly rel
Hi Randy and all;
I definitely like the water cooled 1800 rpm machines too, but for
regular off grid homes, they just are way out of the budget. We jumped
on the inverter generator band wagon for a while, but had the same load
issues Allan described. (Microwave kicks the breaker, and you're
Randy,
I concur, the Cummins/Onan generators are built well and are reliable. They
provide a 1 year, 1000 hour warranty for off grid use when a RE system is
installed for primary power.
We install lots of Magnum Energy inverters with AGS modules in RV's. What sold
me on the Onan's is having
Todd,
We don't sell or install generators, but the only one I recommend for permanent
installations is the Cummins/Onan, 1,800 rpm, propane fueled. All others have
failed early.
Good luck,
Randy Brooks
Brooks Solar, Inc.
Solar Power for People
140 Columbia View
Chelan, WA 98816
509-682-9646
no issues thus
far.
Thanks
Rich
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Ray,
We don't install generators but have installed several (4) systems
where the customer has ordered and had installed Generac's Eco-Gen, if
that is the model you're referring to. In the past I would NEVER
recommend Generac. The gen installer had to install the two wire gen
start option and in
Ray:
We hooked one up, but I spent little time with it. It was in a very
plastic casing and it was somewhat hard to get to the connection box. It
required some kind of programming for the two wire start to
work. Fortunately the vendor's installer was on site so he pressed the
buttons. It
I just found Generac's Off grid model 6 Kw. I know I've heard nothing
but $%& about Generac, but this unit appears to actually be designed
specifically for off grid, and has a special oil cooling system and
runs at 2600 rpm. Anybody dare try one?
Ray Walters
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wrenches,
i am working on a design for an off grid camp. they need a new generator as the
one they have is a total pos.
i am interested in suggestions for a commercial grade, 10 to 15 kW propane
fueled unit. are kohler and onan still the best thing going or am i living in
the past?
thanks,
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