Re: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar and beyond

2008-11-04 Thread Bill Brooks
] crystalline VS uni-solar and beyond Michael Welch wrote at 09:32 AM 11/4/2008: >3. The amorphous modules performed 4% less than the crystalline -- until Uni-Solar replaced the modules a couple of years back, and now they outperform the crystalline modules by about 4%. Dangit. That last figure i

Re: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar and beyond

2008-11-04 Thread Michael Welch
Michael Welch wrote at 09:32 AM 11/4/2008: >3. The amorphous modules performed 4% less than the crystalline -- until >Uni-Solar replaced the modules a couple of years back, and now they outperform >the crystalline modules by about 4%. Dangit. That last figure is 2%, for outperforming the cry

Re: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar and beyond

2008-11-04 Thread Michael Welch
Hi gang. I have a little more info on the comparison system that was being discussed last week, just for the record. I heard from the system installer (Roger) yesterday who filled me in. I really do not know any more than the following: 1. Systems: eight 130 W Siemens and sixteen 64 W Uni-Solar

Re: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar and beyond

2008-11-03 Thread Joel Davidson
chances. - Original Message From: Doug Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Monday, November 3, 2008 5:53:29 AM Subject: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar and beyond How about the longevity? This is the one area that has not been tested. Cryst

Re: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar and beyond

2008-11-03 Thread Geoff Greenfield
> > Cheers, > Doug Pratt > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff > Greenfield > Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 8:50 AM > To: RE-wrenches > Cc: RE Marketing for home scale RE industry > Sub

[RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar and beyond

2008-11-03 Thread Doug Wells
How about the longevity? This is the one area that has not been tested. Crystalline cells have proven their longevity for the most part. Their weakness seems to be sealants and gaskets more than cell longevity. How will the amorphous panels be producing in 20 years? Is this why Sanyo has kep

Re: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar and beyond

2008-11-02 Thread Doug Pratt
CTED] On Behalf Of Geoff Greenfield Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 8:50 AM To: RE-wrenches Cc: RE Marketing for home scale RE industry Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar and beyond thanks everyone! Once more this list is a fantastic resource. As a follow up, the original post

Re: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar and beyond

2008-11-02 Thread Geoff Greenfield
riginal Message - > From: Marco Mangelsdorf > To: 'RE-wrenches' > Cc: 'Paula Mints' > Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 11:21 AM > Subject: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar and beyond > > > Joel, > > > >

[RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar and beyond

2008-11-01 Thread Joel Davidson
e - From: Marco Mangelsdorf To: 'RE-wrenches' Cc: 'Paula Mints' Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 11:21 AM Subject: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar and beyond Joel, I've been either a participant or observer of the PV field/industry as lon

Re: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar and beyond

2008-11-01 Thread jay peltz
heers, Doug Pratt DC Power Systems From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Joel Davidson Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 10:00 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar and beyond Hi Jay, My experience was the exact opposite with Unisolar t

Re: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar and beyond

2008-11-01 Thread Doug Pratt
ind. Best regards, Joel Davidson "Not all change is for the better, but nothing gets better without change." So vote for change! - Original Message - From: jay peltz <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: RE-wrenches <mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>

[RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar and beyond

2008-11-01 Thread Marco Mangelsdorf
-- Original Message From: jay peltz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: RE-wrenches Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 8:27:19 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar Hi Geoff, In regards to the performance between Unisolar and crystalline, there is a side by side ( same watts, batter

Re: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar and beyond

2008-11-01 Thread Joel Davidson
ge is for the better, but nothing gets better without change." So vote for change! - Original Message - From: jay peltz To: RE-wrenches Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar Hi Joel, 1. unisolar 64's

Re: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar

2008-10-31 Thread jay peltz
es and how many of each? 2. What inverter or inverters? 3. Geographic location? 4. Array azimuth and tilt? Best regards, Joel Davidson - Original Message From: jay peltz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: RE-wrenches Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 8:27:19 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] cr

Re: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar

2008-10-31 Thread jay peltz
Hi Ian, There was a fat spaniel site for it. I can ask to see if this can be posted, jay peltz power On Oct 31, 2008, at 12:55 PM, Ian Woofenden wrote: Hi Jay, Is there documentation available on this side-by-side comparison? URL? Thanks, Ian Hi Geoff, In regards to the performance

Re: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar

2008-10-31 Thread Larry Crutcher
Geoff, When you mentioned "plenty of partial shading", that settled the issue for me. Every cell in Uni-Solar modules have a bypass diode allowing them to handle shading better than any other module I know of. For potentially shaded areas or high ambient temperatures, it is our module of

Re: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar

2008-10-31 Thread Joel Davidson
?   Best regards, Joel Davidson - Original Message From: jay peltz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: RE-wrenches Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 8:27:19 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar Hi Geoff, In regards to the performance between Unisolar and crystalline, ther

Re: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar

2008-10-31 Thread Ian Woofenden
Hi Jay, Is there documentation available on this side-by-side comparison? URL? Thanks, Ian Hi Geoff, In regards to the performance between Unisolar and crystalline, there is a side by side ( same watts, batteryless intertie with metering) installation up here on the North coast of Califor

Re: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar

2008-10-31 Thread Matt Tritt
Hi Jay, From my own Unisolar installations, and many comments from installers all over the US, I have to say that the system on the North coast is some kind of an anomaly if it isn't performing at least as well as a crystalline system of = power rating at the same or similar site with the sam

Re: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar

2008-10-31 Thread Jeff Lahl
155 Keonekai Rd Kihei, HI 96753 USA 808 874-5706 (Phone and Fax) 808 283-0875 (Mobile) --- On Fri, 10/31/08, ASAP POWER! 2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: ASAP POWER! 2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar To: "'RE-wrenches'

Re: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar

2008-10-31 Thread ASAP POWER! 2
bject: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar As a follow up to my uni-solar post (and thanks to all who provided feedback), I have a second request: Any references to recent side-by side "shoot-outs" between Unisolar and conventional crystaline PV? Scientific studies? Your own wrenc

Re: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar

2008-10-31 Thread jay peltz
Hi Geoff, In regards to the performance between Unisolar and crystalline, there is a side by side ( same watts, batteryless intertie with metering) installation up here on the North coast of California, and the the Unisolar is the constant under-performer. This includes cloudy, sunny, wa

Re: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar

2008-10-31 Thread Wind-sun.com
riday, October 31, 2008 8:08 AM Subject: [RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar ...I am more and more often encountering confused customers that are considering unisolar systems at zero-tilt (we are at 40 degrees N), with plenty of partial shading, after getting a pitch about all sorts of

[RE-wrenches] crystalline VS uni-solar

2008-10-31 Thread Geoff Greenfield
As a follow up to my uni-solar post (and thanks to all who provided feedback),  I have a second request: Any references to recent side-by side "shoot-outs" between Unisolar and conventional crystaline PV?  Scientific studies?  Your own wrench thoughts? I am more and more often encounter