Re: [RE-wrenches] Two NEC questions

2012-10-15 Thread Steve Jefferson
To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Two NEC questions Wrenches, I wrote back to Bill with the person at SMA who gave the talk and it is possible that I may have been mistaken about the ship date for AFCI-enabled Sunny Boys. Transformerless Sunny Boy US-series units are on the way soon too and

Re: [RE-wrenches] Two NEC questions

2012-10-14 Thread boB
s *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Two NEC questions Hi David and Rebecca - We're still in the 2008 code cycle here in California so AFCI hasn't become an issue yet. I just listened to a webinar by SMA last week and I believe that their AFCI Sunny Boys wont' be shipping for at least a co

Re: [RE-wrenches] Two NEC questions

2012-10-14 Thread August Goers
enches.org [mailto: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Bill Brooks *Sent:* Sunday, October 14, 2012 9:44 AM *To:* 'RE-wrenches' *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Two NEC questions August, Who at SMA said that they won’t be shipping AFCI inverters? I know they have been m

Re: [RE-wrenches] Two NEC questions

2012-10-14 Thread Bill Brooks
to:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of August Goers Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 9:11 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Two NEC questions Hi David and Rebecca - We're still in the 2008 code cycle here in California so AFCI hasn't become an issue yet. I j

Re: [RE-wrenches] Two NEC questions

2012-10-14 Thread August Goers
tioned below. Good luck out there! -August *From:* re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *David Brearley *Sent:* Saturday, October 13, 2012 9:02 AM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Two NEC questions

Re: [RE-wrenches] Two NEC questions

2012-10-13 Thread Ray Walters
Midnite Solar has some DC arc fault equipment both built into their charge controllers (for battery based systems) and their Combiner boxes. The nice thing about having AFCI at the combiner is that it actually protects the wiring from the array to the inverter, so if an arc is occurring in say

Re: [RE-wrenches] Two NEC questions

2012-10-13 Thread Alex Cozine
Rebecca, First off, nice install on the four SiE pole mounts! Second, as long as we are talking strictly grid-tied systems, not AC coupled or battery backup, it seems like Solar should be viewed more like an appliance. It supplements the service at your house. That being said, you've got a tou

Re: [RE-wrenches] Two NEC questions

2012-10-13 Thread Brian Mehalic
You can see what products UL has listed (though not other NRTLs) at: www.ul.com Near the bottom of the page on the right hand side click on: Online Certifications Directory Into the UL Category Code box enter: QIDC (for inverters with integrated dc arc-fault) or QIDC2 (for dc arc-fault compone

Re: [RE-wrenches] Two NEC questions

2012-10-13 Thread David Brearley
RE Question #2: Article 100 defines a service as: Service. The conductors and equipment for delivering electric energy from the serving utility to the wiring system of the premises served. (emphasis added) PV system wiring simply does not fit that definition. The PV system is not part of the

[RE-wrenches] Two NEC questions

2012-10-13 Thread Rebecca Lundberg
Dear fellow wrenches, Does anyone have suggestions for the 'best' way to keep up with product availability for meeting 690.11 on DC AFCI? I understand that when this code section was written there was no available device, and know that at least several companies are working on devices. How will I