Allan:
We recently experienced some problems charging a new set of IBE batteries
with XW equipment. The apparent solution was reached just before I left
for a back packing trip so I did not have time to post the
results. Apparently, the flags on the IBE batteries developed a talcum
powder l
The Surrette Tech Bulletin 614 is available for download at http://surrette.com/files/BU-RS-614.pdf. My understanding is that this bulletin is the direct result of the complaints on this list about two years ago about Surrette battery performance and life.
Allan
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Still using a standard type charger, 3 ph, 480 volt
They start at 100 amp and go down from there.
We replaced a high frequency charger that was no longer doing the job with a
standard charger at one site. The hi freq would start at 110 amp and run for
a while then remove the surface charge and rea
two years ago about Surrette battery performance and life.
Allan
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From: jay peltz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 1:41 PM
To: Allan Sindelar
Subject: Fwd: [RE-wrenches] Surrette Battery Question
HI Allan,
You mention about a Surrette tech b
Hi bob,
Wow now thats unusual!
So have you figured out a better charger or are using a IBE or similar?
jay
On Aug 3, 2008, at 6:02 PM, robert ellison wrote:
The 80 volt battery banks are not on inverters, sorry I didn't
mention that.
They are 2 - 20 cell packs in series for 80 volts total.
The 80 volt battery banks are not on inverters, sorry I didn't mention that.
They are 2 - 20 cell packs in series for 80 volts total.
These power a Zamboni. I didn't know what one of those was either when they
called me to work on the batteries 10 or so years ago.
These are the machines that groom
E-wrenches] Surrette Battery Question
HI Allan,
You mention about a Surrette tech bulletin, I can't seem to find it? Can you
tell me where it might be on their site?
Also I"m curious about you saying that hot modules isn't going to affect
voltage drop.
Sure it will. If the wire
Wrenches,
Thank you for the whole set of responses.
I haven't been to the site yet, but plan to stop there this week. As the
symptoms are not easily explained, I wanted to put the problem out for ideas
here first, to reduce the chance of missing something. I will report back
with what I learn.
I
Energy Services
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jay peltz
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 11:27 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Surrette Battery Question
I presume there is a temp sensor on the CC and inverter.
And if the batter
HI Bob,
What are you using 80v battery banks for or which inverters anyway?
Would be great for larger systems.
thanks,
jay
peltz power
On Aug 1, 2008, at 10:18 PM, robert ellison wrote:
When i went to an SEI class at the Trojan factory one of the points
mentioned was that the best way to g
I presume there is a temp sensor on the CC and inverter.
And if the battery temps are higher then the voltage termination
would be lower which could explain it.
Or, I have seen them get off calibration which would cause a
difference in charge set points.
jay
peltz power
On Aug 2, 2008
Hi Allan,
On a previous thread, it seems that Surrette batteries like a fast
charge periodically. At one time (as I recall) is was recommended to
give them a C/5 once a week, but the company said that was not
necessary. I don't know of C/13 to C/18 charges would be
enough. Can your custome
Did this customer check the voltage of the individual batteries/cells?
Maybe there is a weak cell developing. Sometimes EQing can take a long
time. I do not "buy" that batteries need to be cycled to stay healthy.
Todd
jay peltz wrote:
Hi Robert,
When you mention cycling batteries, are you s
Sindelar
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 10:19 PM
To: RE Wrenches
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Surrette Battery Question
Wrenches,
In late 2003 we installed a 24V set of Rolls-Surrette 4-KS-21PS 6V 1104
A/hr batteries in the off-grid system of a long-time client. The client's
system had a d
Allan,
The timing of the problem certainly points to your high seasonal temperatures as
at least a contributing factor. What is your array voltage? If it is 24V, can
you relatively easily rewire for 36 or 48V?
Dick
Solarwind Electric
Bradford,VT
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When i went to an SEI class at the Trojan factory one of the points
mentioned was that the best way to get the lowest cost per watt from the
battery bank
(T-105's were at the time the lowest) was to cycle them to 80% discharge
then fill them all the way up. Not feasible in an off grid system at all
Hi Robert,
When you mention cycling batteries, are you saying that batteries in
a offgrid system that are being cycled 15-25% a day should be cycled
even deeper than that?
Thanks,
jay
peltz power
On Aug 1, 2008, at 8:36 PM, robert ellison wrote:
A couple things that I haver noticed in the
A couple things that I haver noticed in the past, sometimes batteries like
to be cycled, shut off the controllers and run them down, then charge them
up fully and then give them an eq charge till it comes up the peak voltage
and hold it there as it (sometimes) slowly rises. Any of these thoughts ar
Wrenches,
In late 2003 we installed a 24V set of Rolls-Surrette 4-KS-21PS 6V 1104 A/hr
batteries in the off-grid system of a long-time client. The client's system
had a democracy array of around 800 watts of tracked PV. In early 2005 we
added 1,280 watts of additional PV, and the client hasn't run
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