Re: [RE-wrenches] Puzzle: Dryer does not work during FXR battery charging

2020-08-18 Thread jay
Back to the original question. 1. FXR/A has generator support, turn it on if its not on. And the FXR/A has a generator setting for AC input that and I don’t really understand how smooths out this issue, but it can. I had a issue somewhat like this, 8Kw radian and 12kw genset. Radian or gen

Re: [RE-wrenches] Puzzle: Dryer does not work during FXR battery charging

2020-08-17 Thread Steve Higgins
Wrenches, When the inverter charger charges the battery bank and runs loads this can affect the harmonics of the generator output. Not much you can do about it other than putting in a larger generator to handle the inverter/charging load along with the loads of the system, and even in some of tho

Re: [RE-wrenches] Puzzle: Dryer does not work during FXR battery charging

2020-08-17 Thread Ray
I'll third the recommendation of a larger generator.  I quit trying the tiny genset setup 15 years ago.  My rule of thumb is the genset needs to be 50% larger than the inverter rating (6kw for a 4 kw inverter) plus the altitude derating.  Here in Colorado, you pretty much need a 8 kw genset wit

Re: [RE-wrenches] Puzzle: Dryer does not work during FXR battery charging

2020-08-17 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
Many of these issues also were solved with an inverter that had gen support or load shave. Time for a new inverter or a generator that is twice the load wattage. This was common back in the day and as Steve said, some cases just can't be fixed. Another reason many have abandoned 12v inverter/ch

Re: [RE-wrenches] Puzzle: Dryer does not work during FXR battery charging

2020-08-17 Thread Will White
I've seen that same issue too. I assumed that the battery charging, house base loads, and the microwave were too much power for the small generator. The voltage drops big time which I assume is what was causing the issue with the microwave and most likely with the dryer too. On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Puzzle: Dryer does not work during FXR battery charging

2020-08-15 Thread Mick Abraham
Hello, Mechanix~ Matt Sherald wrote about his dryer puzzle. I suggest the run capacitor solution discussed near the bottom of this webpage: http://mvvikingstar.blogspot.com/2013/03/summery-and-conclusion-compatibility.html The Wrench List is the Bomb! Mick Abraham, Proprietor www.abrahamsolar.co

Re: [RE-wrenches] Puzzle: Dryer does not work during FXR battery charging

2020-08-15 Thread Jay
Check power factor, it might be getting pretty poor during charging. Jay Peltz power. > On Aug 15, 2020, at 8:06 AM, Matt Sherald wrote: > >  > Hello All, > > My curiosity was piqued by a recent customer complaint. I'm hoping someone > has bumped up against this issue before. > > The cu

Re: [RE-wrenches] Puzzle: Dryer does not work during FXR battery charging

2020-08-15 Thread Jerry Shafer
Look at the programming, view the inverter during the charge Jerry On Sat, Aug 15, 2020, 8:06 AM Matt Sherald wrote: > Hello All, > > My curiosity was piqued by a recent customer complaint. I'm hoping > someone has bumped up against this issue before. > > The customer has a OB FXR2812 and a 3,0

Re: [RE-wrenches] Puzzle: Dryer does not work during FXR battery charging

2020-08-15 Thread William Miller
enches *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] Puzzle: Dryer does not work during FXR battery charging Hello All, My curiosity was piqued by a recent customer complaint. I'm hoping someone has bumped up against this issue before. The customer has a OB FXR2812 and a 3,000W Honda gen. Her gas clothes drye

Re: [RE-wrenches] Puzzle: Dryer does not work during FXR battery charging

2020-08-15 Thread Chris Schaefer
My bet is these clients are on a budget given the battery voltage and small inverters. So there probably isn't any PV at the moment. I've been coming across a lot of these types of systems lately. Came across a Generac 120v, 6kw Eco Gen with 3,500 hours on it! Ouch and the clients just won't add PV

Re: [RE-wrenches] Puzzle: Dryer does not work during FXR battery charging

2020-08-15 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
Ouch ! 2812 inverter. As a pro, you need to get them away from 12V IMHO. A home with appliances needs 24v and 4kw, both minimum. As Kent said, for now you can't do both gen charging and drying clothes. Why do you need a genset this time of year? Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar "we go where po

Re: [RE-wrenches] Puzzle: Dryer does not work during FXR battery charging

2020-08-15 Thread Dan Fink
I have the same problem at my place, and a couple client's systems, with Magnum inverter/chargers and small ~2-3kw generators (not just Honda). But the problem appliance is microwave ovens, doesn't matter which microwave brand. They run fine straight from the generator, and fine from the inverter w

Re: [RE-wrenches] Puzzle: Dryer does not work during FXR battery charging

2020-08-15 Thread Kent Osterberg
Matt, I haven't looked at what the FXR does to the waveform of a 3000-watt Honda, but I have used an oscilloscope to look at the waveform of a small generator while an FX inverter is charging batteries -- it pretty much makes an ugly mess of the voltage waveform. Not surprised to hear that so

[RE-wrenches] Puzzle: Dryer does not work during FXR battery charging

2020-08-15 Thread Matt Sherald
Hello All, My curiosity was piqued by a recent customer complaint. I'm hoping someone has bumped up against this issue before. The customer has a OB FXR2812 and a 3,000W Honda gen. Her gas clothes dryer runs just fine off the OB inverter. It runs properly on the Honda gen (when the inverter is b