Re: [RE-wrenches] PV harvest in grid-tied systems

2012-04-18 Thread Dana
m: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of David Katz Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 3:01 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] PV harvest in grid-tied systems William I have a grid tie system with a Outback Radian and Xa

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV harvest in grid-tied systems

2012-04-18 Thread toddcory
im curious david, how you measure the output of the radian since the system is grid tie/w battery backup. the only way i have seen to do this is with a kv2c meter on each 120 volt leg. is that how you are monitoring the output of the inverter? thanks, todd On Wednesday, April 18, 20

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV harvest in grid-tied systems

2012-04-18 Thread David Katz
William I am using an Elkor meter with RS485 output connected to a SolarLog1000. There are two current transformers connected to the Elkor meter. I ran each wire from the 240 vac from the main load center through a current transformer to the Radian ac input. Then I ran the Ac output line from t

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV harvest in grid-tied systems

2012-04-18 Thread Bill Loesch
David, What did you choose for revenue-grade monitoring? Comments? Bill Loesch Solar 1 - Saint Louis Solar 314 631 1094 On 18-Apr-12 4:01 AM, David Katz wrote: William I have a grid tie system with a Outback Radian and Xantrex 600 volt charge controller with 4kw of modules and it sells bac

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV harvest in grid-tied systems

2012-04-18 Thread David Katz
William I have a grid tie system with a Outback Radian and Xantrex 600 volt charge controller with 4kw of modules and it sells back flawlessly. I have revenue-grade monitoring on the system and I am very happy with the output. David Katz Sent from my iPhone On Apr 16, 2012, at 6:51 AM, "Willia

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV harvest in grid-tied systems

2012-04-16 Thread Chris Mason
So if I understand you, your problem is that you have a grid tied battery backed system XW based system that ought to be exporting power. I have installed the same system near my office. You are finding that the customer's electricity cost has not decreased as expected. I know that when I stand in

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV harvest in grid-tied systems

2012-04-16 Thread William Miller
Chris: I would willingly clarify but I am confused about what you are confused about. I think we are saying the same thing about off-grid systems: If you don't consume power, battery voltage stays high and charge controllers reduce energy harvest. William Miller At 06:57 AM 4/16/2012, y

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV harvest in grid-tied systems

2012-04-16 Thread Chris Mason
William, I must confess to being totally confused by your post. I am currently at my office writing to you using electricity from our off-grid solar system. We only have the solar power, no grid power. We get exactly as much power as I predicted we would, in fact a little more. But, there is an i

[RE-wrenches] PV harvest in grid-tied systems

2012-04-15 Thread William Miller
Friends: There has been recent discussion on this forum about PV production in grid-tied with battery systems. I have been faced with this same problem in a 3 XW system installed in 2009. The customer's power bill never went down. PV harvest was abysmal. The system would create great shor