Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-19 Thread August Goers
nches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *jay peltz *Sent:* Tuesday, November 19, 2013 10:33 AM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods Hi August, I can only assume that the inspectors are talking about say runn

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-19 Thread Glenn Burt
.. -Glenn From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of August Goers Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 12:39 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods Hi All - On a related note, I've become

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-19 Thread jay peltz
Energy Corporation > o: 415.641.4000 > m: 415.559.1525 > www.luminalt.com > > > > From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org > [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of William Miller > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 11:33 PM > To: &#x

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-19 Thread Jesse Dahl
m: 415.559.1525 > www.luminalt.com > > > > From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org > [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of William Miller > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 11:33 PM > To: 'RE-wrenches' > Subject: Re: [RE-wrench

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-19 Thread August Goers
enches.org [ mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *frenergy *Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2013 7:46 AM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods William, Billfrom another Bill, Two things: For the rest of us (maybe it's just me?

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-18 Thread William Miller
s.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of frenergy Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 7:46 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods William, Billfrom another Bill, Two things: For the rest of us (maybe it's just me?!) that's

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-18 Thread William Miller
: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods William, I know your long-time stance on conduit. It has its place. This report was about an integrated PV system that caught fire because of a module failure-this was not a cable management issue. We can all jump on our

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-16 Thread frenergy
ently the SS wire ties I was looking at from Grainger were gold plated! I appreciate all the input. Bill Feather River Solar Electric - Original Message - From: Ray Walters To: RE-wrenches Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring me

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-15 Thread Chris Mason
ve people been using regular SS wire ties in the field >> for 10-20 years, behind a roof mounted array without any issues related to >> the wire ties? >> Thanks for your help and patience, >> >> Bill >> >> Feather River Solar Electric >> 4291 Nelson St. &

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread jay peltz
Hi Bill, I get mine from PV-cables Less expensive and no minimum order Cheers, jay peltz power On Nov 14, 2013, at 6:21 PM, Bill Hoffer wrote: > Jason > > I just started using Nine Fasteners, Inc www.ninefasteners.com . 410 > stainless wire management clips. Got turned on to them at SPI

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread Bill Hoffer
Jason I just started using Nine Fasteners, Inc www.ninefasteners.com . 410 stainless wire management clips. Got turned on to them at SPI this year. They are awesome, same basic clip concept except they add a nice rounding along the edges that keeps it from cutting into the wire. A step above t

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread Ray Walters
Of *William Miller *Sent:* Wednesday, November 13, 2013 1:42 PM *To:* 'RE-wrenches' *Subject:* [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods Bill: I respectfully disagree with your logic: Define "perfectly installed." If your connections are tight and permanent and the conductors are protec

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread Ray Walters
I'm ordering the Jason's PV wire clips. Vinyl coated metal will outlast any plastic sip, and they clip into the slot on the rails: much cleaner than a zip tie all the way around the rail. It doesn't cure all our wire management issues, but it looks like it will solve some of it. In combinati

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread Bill Loesch
That said [PV WireClips], wire management is often a matter of strong opinion, and we are far from standardization and an accepted set of best practices. Jason Szumlanski Fafco Solar Jason, Can your wire management procedures equal the 20, 25, or 30 year warranty your modules offer? I hope

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread Bill Brooks
n if you please. Bill. From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of William Miller Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 1:42 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods Bill: I respectfully

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread Benn At DayStarSolar
ce for such >>> things (Grainger) has "regular" SS wire ties that range from $1.50 to $3 >>> each, but none that I can see that address the sharp edge issue...or is >>> that an issue? Have people been using regular SS wire ties in the field >>> for 10-20 years,

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems
CA 95983 > 530.284.7849 / 6544 fax > "solar powered since 1982" > > - Original Message - > From: "Bill Loesch" > To: "RE-wrenches" > Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 1:34 AM > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread Jason Szumlanski
I know we've had this discussion before, but I wanted to again recommend the WireClips from PV Racking. We are using them on Enphase trunk lines, and find them to be great for this purpose. At $0.25 each, they are cost effective. That said, wire management is often a matter of strong opinion, and

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread Kirpal Khalsa
Augustthank youyou are right they are actually a Heyco productmy bad!!! Ray, we recently got them thru http://www.heilind.com/products/heyco/Heyco_solar.asp Ray...Contact me off list and i will share my sales persons contact info.. Cheers, Sunny Regards, Kirpal Khalsa NABCEP Cert

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread Ray Walters
esch" mailto:solar1onl...@charter.net>> To: "RE-wrenches" mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods > > Hi William (and any other person who wishes to d

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread August Goers
-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *Kirpal Khalsa *Sent:* Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:42 AM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods Bill.we have been using the Hellerman Tyton Sunbundler cable tiesThey are braided stainless steel wire with a UV resistant vinyl jacketWe

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread Kirpal Khalsa
ic > 4291 Nelson St. > Taylorsville, CA 95983 > 530.284.7849 / 6544 fax > "solar powered since 1982" > > - Original Message - > From: "Bill Loesch" > To: "RE-wrenches" > Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 1:34 AM > Subje

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread frenergy
- Original Message - From: "Bill Loesch" To: "RE-wrenches" Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 1:34 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods > > Hi William (and any other person who wishes to describe themselves as > professional (designer, installe

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-14 Thread Bill Loesch
Hi William (and any other person who wishes to describe themselves as professional (designer, installer, etc.)), Please accept this note as confirmation that your evangelism on wire management has not fallen on entirely deaf ears. Additionally, I'm curious how the practice of requiring a te

[RE-wrenches] PV Wiring methods

2013-11-13 Thread William Miller
Bill: I respectfully disagree with your logic: Define "perfectly installed." If your connections are tight and permanent and the conductors are protected from damage, you have a great chance of a reliable, safe lifetime of service. How can you guarantee that your leads will stay protected af