Re: [RE-wrenches] Odd battery problem - very low SG in only one cell

2015-11-24 Thread Dan Fink
Thanks everyone for the replies and ideas both on and off list. Based on your input, next week when the system is in Float I plan to have the class isolate the faulty battery and measure voltage, let it rest for a couple days, then load test at about C/10. Predicted result is that it will show ext

Re: [RE-wrenches] Odd battery problem - very low SG in only one cell

2015-11-24 Thread Drake
Having one cell die seems to be an emerging pattern. At 09:49 AM 11/22/2015, you wrote: Esteemed Wrenches; I'm looking for input on what could be going on with a battery bank at the college I teach for. It's a stand-alone system with 4 Trojan 12v T-1275 in series / parallel for 24v, 660w of

Re: [RE-wrenches] Odd battery problem - very low SG in only one cell

2015-11-23 Thread Starlight Solar Power Systems
Yes, Bill, but it seems that the manufacturers are over eating as the excrement is happening with much greater frequency. It’s interesting that I’m not seeing this problem with the Trojan T-105 Plus. We sell about 3 pallet loads of those each season. Larry On Nov 23, 2015, at 9:25 AM, Feather

Re: [RE-wrenches] Odd battery problem - very low SG in only one cell

2015-11-23 Thread William Dorsett
T-1275’s are golf cart Bill Dorsett Manhattan, KS From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of RE Ellison Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 10:36 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Odd battery problem - very low SG in only one cell I have

Re: [RE-wrenches] Odd battery problem - very low SG in only one cell

2015-11-23 Thread Feather River Solar Electric
Dan, Larry, I just had a S-460 do exactly the same thing, bank of 8, good maintenance, light usage, one battery with 2 cells at 1.270, one at "zero" Surrette was low hassle and prompt with free replacement. As someone notable once said "excrement occurs". Bill On 11/23/20

Re: [RE-wrenches] Odd battery problem - very low SG in only one cell

2015-11-23 Thread RE Ellison
I have seen a high number of Trojan L 16's losing single cells for no apparent reason Probably starting five or six years ago Many on battery banks for the people that had banks previously and gotten 10 or 12 years life out of them so I wouldn't expect anything different on the replacements Al

Re: [RE-wrenches] Odd battery problem - very low SG in only one cell

2015-11-23 Thread Starlight Solar Power Systems
Dan, Last week I had a 3+ year old Trojan L16H-AC with one dead middle cell, SG shows water. The bank has 8 batteries and the customer is diligent about maintenance and charging. I wish I knew why this happens but it seems over the last few years like there is a pattern with Trojan L16’s. L

Re: [RE-wrenches] Odd battery problem - very low SG in only one cell

2015-11-23 Thread Bill Loesch
Hi Dan, No definitive suggestions, but kudos for making it a learning experience for _all_. Great analytical technique. Hopefully you gain more credibility with the kids as a result of your candor. Bill Loesch Solar 1 - Saint Louis Solar 314 631 1094 On 11/22/2015 8:49 AM, Dan Fink wrote: E

Re: [RE-wrenches] Odd battery problem - very low SG in only one cell

2015-11-22 Thread Tump
Batteries will fail, 2 volt cells are easily replaced your, not so w/your 12 volt cell, thats the whole battery. What causes it? usually its a manufacture issue. bad weld on the plates, poor forming of the plates in the cell. I have seen this many times where there IS voltage but no Spg. You wer

Re: [RE-wrenches] Odd battery problem - very low SG in only one cell

2015-11-22 Thread William Miller
attery problem - very low SG in only one cell Esteemed Wrenches; I'm looking for input on what could be going on with a battery bank at the college I teach for. It's a stand-alone system with 4 Trojan 12v T-1275 in series / parallel for 24v, 660w of PV, running only a drainback solar

Re: [RE-wrenches] Odd battery problem - very low SG in only one cell

2015-11-22 Thread Jay
Hi dan Assuming all charge settings correct, it's a manufacturing fault. I couldn't tell if the other lower SG readings were in the same battery or not. I just replaced a 1 yr old HUP, cell. Now as to what, why, how it failed, that's a good mystery Jay > On Nov 22, 2015, at 6:49 AM, Dan

[RE-wrenches] Odd battery problem - very low SG in only one cell

2015-11-22 Thread Dan Fink
Esteemed Wrenches; I'm looking for input on what could be going on with a battery bank at the college I teach for. It's a stand-alone system with 4 Trojan 12v T-1275 in series / parallel for 24v, 660w of PV, running only a drainback solar hot water system for space heating. So, 3 pumps and 3 DTCs,