Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientation

2008-12-29 Thread jay peltz
ssage- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of boB Gudgel Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 5:07 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientation Peter Parrish wrote: Bill, I

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientation

2008-12-29 Thread Bill Brooks
-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Peter Parrish Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 3:54 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientation Bill, I looked into this several years ago, and I was able to get some digitized I-V data. I

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientation

2008-12-29 Thread Peter Parrish
wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Mark Frye Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 10:39 AM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientation Peter, What are you modelling for annualized s

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientation

2008-12-29 Thread boB
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:32:42 -0700 From: "Starlight Solar, Yuma, AZ" I have pondered this problem often. Here's my thoughts: If you could disconnect the two orientations and monitor them simultaneously, in the morning the easterly array would have a higher Vmp while the westerly array woul

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientation

2008-12-29 Thread Mark Frye
erter with two strings of different orientation Thanks Bob, these are really great reference articles. The equation for Vmp had four terms, three of which are temperature dependent. So I think we put that issue to bed. The reason that this issue is so important for us is this: if Vmp is temperature

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientation

2008-12-29 Thread Starlight Solar, Yuma, AZ
I have pondered this problem often. Here's my thoughts: If you could disconnect the two orientations and monitor them simultaneously, in the morning the easterly array would have a higher Vmp while the westerly array would necessarily be lower. This relationship would change throughout the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientation

2008-12-29 Thread Peter Parrish
-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientation Peter Parrish wrote: > Bill, > > I looked into this several years ago, and I was able to get some digitized > I-V data. I can't find that now (but I will). The data supports my claim. >

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientation

2008-12-28 Thread boB Gudgel
Peter Parrish wrote: Bill, I looked into this several years ago, and I was able to get some digitized I-V data. I can't find that now (but I will). The data supports my claim. Vmp does change with irradiance. It just changes very little. Depends on your definition of "change" I guess. Neg

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientation

2008-12-28 Thread Peter Parrish
Bill, I looked into this several years ago, and I was able to get some digitized I-V data. I can't find that now (but I will). The data supports my claim. Let's take the simplest case (constant cell temperature) and what was a fairly popular PV module: Kyocera's KC200GT. Although it is a little

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientation

2008-12-27 Thread Bill Brooks
Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Peter Parrish Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 11:53 AM To: k...@vtsolar.com; 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientati

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientation

2008-12-26 Thread Peter Parrish
eter Parrish Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 2:30 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientation I was afraid that the ultimate resolution would be another software cost item. I'll look into PVSYST, and consider purchasing it if it is a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientation

2008-12-26 Thread Kirk Herander, VSE
27; Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientation I was afraid that the ultimate resolution would be another software cost item. I'll look into PVSYST, and consider purchasing it if it is a professionally-developed and maintained product, with pre-and post-sales

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientation

2008-12-26 Thread Peter Parrish
RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientation Peter and Darryl, The right way to do this is using a computer program PVSYST ($800). It will calculate the operating voltage of each string and the overall performance. Not much else out there can calc

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientation

2008-12-26 Thread Bill Brooks
-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Peter Parrish Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 11:04 AM To: daryl_so...@yahoo.com; 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientation Thanks, Dary

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientation

2008-12-25 Thread Peter Parrish
-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Darryl Thayer Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2008 7:39 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientation If each string is composed of only one orientation then there would be little loss. There have been a couple of p

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientation

2008-12-25 Thread Darryl Thayer
string has two orientations then much larger losses occur. Daryl --- On Wed, 12/24/08, Peter Parrish wrote: > From: Peter Parrish > Subject: [RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientation > To: "'RE-wrenches'" > Date: Wednesday, December 24, 20

[RE-wrenches] Inverter with two strings of different orientation

2008-12-24 Thread Peter Parrish
I don't think this topic has been dealt with in this forum. Ocassionally we want to use a single inverter with two or more strings, each string being loaded by a single sub-array. A sub-array being defined as having a single uniform tilt angle and azimuth. All modules are identical. And each string