Maverick,
"But you would think after 20 years, inverter manufacturers would make some
software similar to generator cycling to handle this cycling issue. "
I believe that the XW Inverters have this ability in sell mode. There is
traditional sell voltage. And then there is a setting that puts
cycling and more
equalization.
From: Exeltech
To: RE-wrenches
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Interstate L-16 vs Trojan L-16REB
Carl,
I've got two sets of Surette lead-calcium in an off-grid test system.
The electr
Correct link for Trojan Premium T-105RE:
See here:
http://www.trojanbatteryre.com/PDF/datasheets/T105RE_TrojanRE_Data_Sheets.pdf
From: John DeBoever
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 11:50 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: RE: [RE-wrenches] Interstate L-16 vs Trojan L-16REB
Wrenches,
Jason,
I
.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Jason Lerner
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 9:20 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Interstate L-16 vs Trojan L-16REB
Hello John,
Thanks for your response. Often L16's need to be used over T-105's at a
certain price point to get more amp ho
2012 9:44 AM
*To:* RE-wrenches
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Interstate L-16 vs Trojan L-16REB
Hello Wrenches,
For small off grid systems, where money is an object, I use Trojan
L-16s of the standard capacity. On this list, these have been
recommended by many as more durable than the HC.
I re
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> From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
> [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Beha
itself to lessening of stratification
issues.
Dan
--- On Thu, 2/16/12, Carl Hansen wrote:
From: Carl Hansen
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Interstate L-16 vs Trojan L-16REB
To: "RE-wrenches"
Date: Thursday, February 16, 2012, 3:12 PM
I've heard that Lead-calcium batteries
I've heard that Lead-calcium batteries do not need Equalization, I
think because the electrolyte does not contain sulfates so the lead
plates cannot get sulfated. Although maybe electrolyte stratification is
still an issue. Can anyone confirm that this info is correct ?
Carl,
On 2/16/2012
this confirms what i have also been told by jamie surrette, namely that cycling
is NOT necessary for flooded
lead- antinimony batteries.
while slightly more expensive, flooded lead-calcium is THE battery designed for
this kind of use... plus they last longer, and use next to no water.
monthl
wrenches] Interstate L-16 vs Trojan L-16REB
Hello Ray and all,
Why is it that golf cart batteries tend to last longer than L-16's in the same
application, small off grid systems? Is the plate thickness or electrolyte vs
plate surface area ratio different? Or is it that the extra hei
Hello Ray and all,
Why is it that golf cart batteries tend to last longer than L-16's in the same
application, small off grid systems? Is the plate thickness or electrolyte vs
plate surface area ratio different? Or is it that the extra height of the L16
contributes to more electrolyte strati
y.com>
www.trojanbattery.com<http://www.trojanbattery.com/>
From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Larry Crutcher,
Starlight Solar Power Systems
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:30 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenche
John,
Are you including your new RE battery as being acceptable for float/standby
service without cycling? Since you do not recommend cycling your battery, do
you also recommend no equalization charge when in float/standby use?
Frankly I question the logic of leaving any deep cycle flooded bat
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:23 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Interstate L-16 vs Trojan L-16REB
my inquiry is about the health of floating a lead antimony battery bank, in a
grid-tie with battery back-up system, where the batteries float 99% of the
time... considering
com"
> To: RE-wrenches
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Interstate L-16 vs Trojan L-16REB
>
> my inquiry is about the health of floating a lead antimony battery bank, in a
> grid-tie with battery back-up system, where the batteries f
;
From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Drake
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:44 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Interstate L-16 vs Trojan L-16REB
Hello Wrenches,
For small off grid systems, where money is
sday, February 15, 2012 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Interstate L-16 vs Trojan L-16REB
my inquiry is about the health of floating a lead antimony battery bank, in a
grid-tie with battery back-up system, where the batteries float 99% of the
time... considering (not specifically about any
my inquiry is about the health of floating a lead antimony battery bank, in a
grid-tie with battery back-up system, where the batteries float 99% of the
time... considering (not specifically about any particular brand/manufacturer)
i have also heard talk about the necessity to have to "work har
.
From: "Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems"
To: RE-wrenches
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Interstate L-16 vs Trojan L-16REB
Me too!
Larry
On Feb 15, 2012, at 1:06 PM, toddc...@finestplanet.com wrote:
i would
I think Todd was asking if Jamie would chime in about the technical validity of
using a battery designed for RE deep cycle use for float or standby, not the
merits or anything about a brand.
Question re-posed: For float/standby use would it be better to choose a high
SG, lead acid/calcium batt
Fellow Wrenchers,
A while ago I received some greatly appreciated advice from some of the members
here. I thank you all again, as well as Michael Welch and the others who help
keep this list going.
The issue at the time was a Y2K BBGT system with an SW4048 and a dead battery of
8 Trojan L-16s.
On Behalf Of Larry
> Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power Systems
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:52 PM
> To: RE-wrenches
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Interstate L-16 vs Trojan L-16REB
>
> I would not recommend using an RE battery for standby/back up use.
>
> There is a simila
Yes, William is correct and this is usually the case.
Manufacturers are on this list to answer your questions about their own
products and avoid entirely discussions that involve their competitors.
Of course, sometimes the manu reps are among the better experts in their
fields. If somebody po
Colleagues:
I am no sure if it would be appropriate for a manufacturer to comment in
this forum on the relative merits of two competing battery products.
Respectfully,
William Miller
At 12:27 PM 2/15/2012, toddc...@finestplanet.com wrote:
i would LOVE it if jamie surrette would chime in o
...@lists.re-wrenches.org] *On Behalf Of *
toddc...@finestplanet.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:08 PM
*To:* RE-wrenches
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Interstate L-16 vs Trojan L-16REB
the only time an OB GFX bulk charges is after a grid outage.
todd
On Wednesday, February 15
Me too!
Larry
On Feb 15, 2012, at 1:06 PM, toddc...@finestplanet.com wrote:
i would LOVE it if jamie surrette would chime in on this comment.
todd
On Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:51am, "Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power
Systems" said:
I would not recommend using an RE battery
enches.org
[mailto:[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org]
re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Larry Crutcher,
Starlight Solar Power Systems
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:52 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Interstate L-16 vs Trojan L-16REB
I
i would LOVE it if jamie surrette would chime in on this comment.
todd
On Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:51am, "Larry Crutcher, Starlight Solar Power
Systems" said:
I would not recommend using an RE battery for standby/back up use.
There is a similar problem that I have seen. People u
] Interstate L-16 vs Trojan L-16REB
I would not recommend using an RE battery for standby/back up use.
There is a similar problem that I have seen. People use 6 volt golf cart
batteries in their motorthome and then stay plugged into shore power for
long periods of time. I see premature failures
I would not recommend using an RE battery for standby/back up use.
There is a similar problem that I have seen. People use 6 volt golf cart
batteries in their motorthome and then stay plugged into shore power for long
periods of time. I see premature failures from this type of use. A golf cart
> I've been happy with Trojan batteries. They do say that they need up to 100
> cycles to reach full capacity.
so what does this mean for grid ties/battery back-up?
todd
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Hi Drake,
I'm wondering what he is using to determine the capacity ( and hence why he
isn't happy ) and does he have any way to measure the kwh/day usage?
I've been happy with Trojan batteries. They do say that they need up to 100
cycles to reach full capacity.
thanks,
jay
peltz power
On
mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Ray Walters
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 12:02 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Interstate L-16 vs Trojan L-16REB
No, both golf cart batteries and industrial cells get more cycle life per $.
Ray
On 2/14/2012 1:18 PM, William
nches.org
[mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Ray Walters
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 12:02 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Interstate L-16 vs Trojan L-16REB
No, both golf cart batteries and industrial cells get more cycle life per $.
Ray
On 2/14/2
No, both golf cart batteries and industrial cells get more cycle life per $.
Ray
On 2/14/2012 1:18 PM, William Miller wrote:
Colleagues:
Do any of you have experience with Interstate L-16 batteries? Are
they a good value?
Thanks in advance,
William Miller
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William,
Be aware that Interstate is no longer using the high quality, USA made, US
Battery for some their deep cycle batteries. They dumped them, and American
jobs, for cheap Johnson Control batteries made in Mexico.
Here's something else to be aware of: Interstate specifies that you charge al
hes] Interstate L-16 vs Trojan L-16REB
Colleagues:
Do any of you have experience with Interstate L-16 batteries? Are they a
good value?
Thanks in advance,
William Miller
Miller Solar
Voice :805-438-5600
email: will...@millersolar.com
http://millersolar.com
License
Colleagues:
Do any of you have experience with Interstate L-16 batteries? Are they a
good value?
Thanks in advance,
William Miller
Miller Solar
Voice :805-438-5600
email: will...@millersolar.com
http://millersolar.com
License No. C-10-773985
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