Re: [RE-wrenches] Hurricanes Forces

2017-09-18 Thread Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
I took a U-tube flight in a copter and a couple U-tube car rides in the Keys yesterday. Pretty hard for me not to believe that if your number was up, it did not matter how much effort was put into the installation for above average quality. There were a few solar installations on houses up on pier

Re: [RE-wrenches] Hurricanes Forces

2017-09-17 Thread Jason Szumlanski
I can't rule out loose hardware, but most of the modules that were plucked show evidence of significant bulging from wind uplift. We use impacts, but go back over them after installation is complete because things can shift around and loosen hardware. Small tornadoes, high gusts, and even Venturi

Re: [RE-wrenches] Hurricanes Forces

2017-09-16 Thread Ray
Is it possible there may have been loose mounting hardware here and there?  I've found quite a few loose clamps over the years on many different systems from myself and reputable dealers.  I've found that using a impact driver really causes trouble; I now hand tighten everything.  Many of the t

Re: [RE-wrenches] Hurricanes Forces

2017-09-16 Thread Jason Szumlanski
I generally agree on all points. I'd love to use three rails on all systems, but there is an economic factor, and as Tom mentions, a third rail doesn't necessarily stop glass being sucked out or a tree landing on the array. At what point do we cease over-engineering the mounting structure and the m

[RE-wrenches] Hurricanes Forces

2017-09-15 Thread Tom Lane
Hurricanes wind create both suction up lift and direct pressure against the glass frame wall of the module -- if a module is to be held securely it must be attached 1/3 or 1/4 of the way from top to bottom by each of the two rails . If modules are facing due South and the wind force comes from the