Re: [RE-wrenches] Convert Grid Tie SW4048 to Backup System; Add New Inverter, AC Coupled

2011-11-22 Thread Joel Davidson
inverter has the same rugged durability but higher grid-tie efficiency? Joel Davidson - Original Message - From: Allan Sindelar To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Convert Grid Tie SW4048 to Backup System; Add New

Re: [RE-wrenches] Convert Grid Tie SW4048 to Backup System; Add New Inverter, AC Coupled

2011-11-22 Thread Bill Loesch
t: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Convert Grid Tie SW4048 to Backup System; Add New Inverter, AC Coupled > Nathan, > I use an SW for backup in AC coupling. I use one of the auxiliary 1 amp relays to activate a larger relay on the AC output of the grid tie inverter

Re: [RE-wrenches] Convert Grid Tie SW4048 to Backup System; Add New Inverter, AC Coupled

2011-11-22 Thread Nathan Jones
:solardud...@yahoo.com] >Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 07:10 AM >To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Convert Grid Tie SW4048 to Backup System; Add New >Inverter, AC Coupled > >Bill, >I believe Allans post indirectly answered my question. While

Re: [RE-wrenches] Convert Grid Tie SW4048 to Backup System; Add New Inverter, AC Coupled

2011-11-22 Thread Nathan Jones
Allan, I was referring to the issue of the SW disconnecting from the grid in any of its settings other than the sell mode. It was this limited function only, which was not part of its UL listing issues, that I implied would make it suitable for AC coupling. I did not know how it would react to t

Re: [RE-wrenches] Convert Grid Tie SW4048 to Backup System; Add New Inverter, AC Coupled

2011-11-22 Thread David Katz
-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Convert Grid Tie SW4048 to Backup System;Add New Inverter, AC Coupled Bill, I believe Allans post indirectly answered my question. While he did not specifically state the SW could be used in an AC coupled arrangement, I believe it

Re: [RE-wrenches] Convert Grid Tie SW4048 to Backup System; Add New Inverter, AC Coupled

2011-11-22 Thread Allan Sindelar
Nathan, I neither stated nor implied that the SW series could be AC-coupled, because I don't know, friend. I have never had reason to try this. The issue was discussed on this forum several years ago, and I have found two key posts from David Katz of AEE about this topic

Re: [RE-wrenches] Convert Grid Tie SW4048 to Backup System; Add New Inverter, AC Coupled

2011-11-22 Thread Nathan Jones
>From: "William Miller" >To: "RE-wrenches" >Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 1:12 PM >Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Convert Grid Tie SW4048 to Backup System; Add New >Inverter, AC Coupled > > >> Joel: >> >> I don't belive it was an

Re: [RE-wrenches] Convert Grid Tie SW4048 to Backup System; Add New Inverter, AC Coupled

2011-11-22 Thread Bill Loesch
From: "William Miller" To: "RE-wrenches" Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Convert Grid Tie SW4048 to Backup System; Add New Inverter, AC Coupled > Joel: > > I don't belive it was an NEC thing, it was a UL/ETL consideration. This

Re: [RE-wrenches] Convert Grid Tie SW4048 to Backup System; Add New Inverter, AC Coupled

2011-11-20 Thread William Miller
Joel: I don't belive it was an NEC thing, it was a UL/ETL consideration. This relates to the NEC only in that it is required to use listed equipment. William Miller At 09:21 AM 11/20/2011, you wrote: Where in the NEC is the requirement for the GTI interface? _

Re: [RE-wrenches] Convert Grid Tie SW4048 to Backup System; Add New Inverter, AC Coupled

2011-11-20 Thread toddcory
On Sunday, November 20, 2011 9:32am, "Joel Davidson" said: Wrenches, I answered Richard off-list, but other wrenches may find this information about old SW4048s and batteries useful. The SW4048 is a solid machine. We've been using one since 1998 and have sold hundreds of them for

Re: [RE-wrenches] Convert Grid Tie SW4048 to Backup System; Add New Inverter, AC Coupled

2011-11-20 Thread Joel Davidson
- Original Message - From: Allan Sindelar To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 8:21 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Convert Grid Tie SW4048 to Backup System; Add New Inverter, AC Coupled Kirk, I think there are a couple of subtleties that yo

Re: [RE-wrenches] Convert Grid Tie SW4048 to Backup System; Add New Inverter, AC Coupled

2011-11-20 Thread Joel Davidson
Where in the NEC is the requirement for the GTI interface? - Original Message - From: "Kirk Herander" To: "'RE-wrenches'" Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 3:33 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Convert Grid Tie SW4048 to Backup System;Add New Inverter, AC

Re: [RE-wrenches] Convert Grid Tie SW4048 to Backup System; Add New Inverter, AC Coupled

2011-11-20 Thread Allan Sindelar
wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Richard L Ratico Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 6:53 PM To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Convert Grid Tie SW4048 to Backup System; Add New Inverter, AC Coupled Jay, Marv, Chris, Ray, Joel & Maverick, Thanks tremendously for your input. Each

Re: [RE-wrenches] Convert Grid Tie SW4048 to Backup System; Add New Inverter, AC Coupled

2011-11-20 Thread Nathan Jones
es@lists.re-wrenches.org >Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Convert Grid Tie SW4048 to Backup System; Add New >Inverter, AC Coupled > >Jay, Marv, Chris, Ray, Joel & Maverick, > >Thanks tremendously for your input. Each of you provided interesting >suggestions, all of which

Re: [RE-wrenches] Convert Grid Tie SW4048 to Backup System; Add New Inverter, AC Coupled

2011-11-20 Thread Kirk Herander
nvert Grid Tie SW4048 to Backup System; Add New Inverter, AC Coupled Jay, Marv, Chris, Ray, Joel & Maverick, Thanks tremendously for your input. Each of you provided interesting suggestions, all of which I find thought provoking and helpful. I greatly appreciate your taking the time to s

Re: [RE-wrenches] Convert Grid Tie SW4048 to Backup System; Add New Inverter, AC Coupled

2011-11-18 Thread Richard L Ratico
Jay, Marv, Chris, Ray, Joel & Maverick, Thanks tremendously for your input. Each of you provided interesting suggestions, all of which I find thought provoking and helpful. I greatly appreciate your taking the time to share your experience. Dick Solarwind Electric --- You wrote: We redid one i

Re: [RE-wrenches] Convert Grid Tie SW4048 to Backup System; Add New Inverter, AC Coupled

2011-11-17 Thread maver...@mavericksolar.com
Dick, What are the customers goals? Battery backup works, but requires knowledge of the customer's expectations (energy, power and flexibility). What is the budget for the upgrades. Do they want more solar? They don't want battery maintenance, will they want generator maintenance? Ask these qu

Re: [RE-wrenches] Convert Grid Tie SW4048 to Backup System; Add New Inverter, AC Coupled

2011-11-17 Thread Ray Walters
We redid one in a very similar situation recently. In that case the customer wanted super backup and so we put in Grid tie Outbacks and a new battery bank, added modules, and kept the SWs as battery chargers from the generator. He had the option with bypass switches to use the SWs, if the Outba

Re: [RE-wrenches] Convert Grid Tie SW4048 to Backup System; Add New Inverter, AC Coupled

2011-11-17 Thread jay peltz
HI Richard, I'll chime in, although you won't like it. Dump the system and start over with a new battery less system and a genny as back up. Told you, you wouldn't like it. The SW parts are basically gone and it was a terrible grid tied inverter anyway. The modules are usable but why at $1.5

[RE-wrenches] Convert Grid Tie SW4048 to Backup System; Add New Inverter, AC Coupled

2011-11-17 Thread Richard L Ratico
Hi Wrenches, This is a repost. No replies the first time, so I'm trying one last time. I may be "adopting" an eleven year old, Y2K, grid tie with battery back-up system. It consists of 12 - Astro-Power 120 modules, installed in 2000, 12 - Evergreen EC-110 modules installed in 2004, only one MX60