Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing

2009-06-09 Thread Roy Butler
Bob-O, This is why we love ya, man! You're not afraid to speak my mind Roy Butler NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer® NYSERDA eligible PV & wind installer Four Winds Renewable Energy, LLC 8902 Route 46 Arkport, NY 14807 607-324-9747 www.four-winds-energy.com Although no trees were kill

Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing

2009-06-09 Thread Bob-O Schultze
I have to chime in here in support with Bill and especially Joel. I refuse to buy or install Chinese modules. Yes, the price is low, but as pointed out by Bill, will they be there in 5,10,15 years to back a warranty? There is something else. This country is in serious financial trouble. We'v

Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing

2009-06-08 Thread Michael Welch
Hi gang. Let's move the non-wrenching issues somewhere else, please, like the RE-Bitching list. Thanks, and if you have any questions or concerns about this please contact me off-list. ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenc

Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing

2009-06-08 Thread Antony Tersol
"Our foreign deficit to them will continue, as our national debt was 41% of the economy last year.now this is unsustainable...we are over leveraged as a society as a whole." "On the economics equation- sure vote with your wallet to improve the balance of payments and perhaps your c

Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing

2009-06-08 Thread August Goers
Cronin Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 12:44 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing Andy, et al Good questions. The humanitarian one first. If we use a computer or cell phone, we are probably contributing to the problem daily as these devices are made

Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing

2009-06-08 Thread Keith Cronin
ot; My sense is the hand is not invisible anymore... From: Antony Tersol To: RE-wrenches Sent: Monday, June 8, 2009 9:09:15 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing So if we should choose to ignore the humanitarian issues, and just approach it

Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing

2009-06-08 Thread Antony Tersol
So if we should choose to ignore the humanitarian issues, and just approach it from a financial sense, how does sourcing Chinese modules improve our balance of payments? Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 11:13:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Keith Cronin Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and

Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing

2009-06-08 Thread Keith Cronin
ictators are anymore? From: Joel Davidson To: RE-wrenches Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2009 3:05:48 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing  Chinese quality will improve and price is important, but I think that doing business with p

Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing

2009-06-08 Thread Keith Cronin
Yes Don, thanks for the added "h" From: "i...@aol.com" To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Sent: Monday, June 8, 2009 7:39:39 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing In a message dated 6/7/2009

Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing

2009-06-08 Thread I2P
In a message dated 6/7/2009 1:45:42 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, electrich...@yahoo.com writes: If we buy power from the utility per kW, my vision is some day we can orchestrate the same. This will greatly improve our field of interest and everyone benefits when performace meets the expecta

Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing

2009-06-07 Thread Joel Davidson
ge - From: Keith Cronin To: RE-wrenches Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing PV enthusiasts- Perhaps a fresh perspective on these products deserves some attention after the last few thoughts shared by

Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing

2009-06-07 Thread Keith Cronin
: Joel Davidson To: RE-wrenches Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2009 7:11:11 AM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing I have a lot of respect for Bill, not just because he sometimes agrees with me (smile), but because he worked at Davis California PVUSA and other place

Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing

2009-06-07 Thread Joel Davidson
ot; Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing All, How many of these Chinese manufacturers will still be in existence in 5 years (probably less than half)? Are you really willing to risk a company and reputation for a few penni

Re: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing

2009-06-06 Thread Bill Brooks
enches.org] On Behalf Of Marco Mangelsdorf Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 12:30 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: [RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing I'm seeing ~ $2.60/watt from a major Chinese manufacturer for a modest volume purchase. What are you all seeing as far

[RE-wrenches] Chinese solar cells and modules and pricing

2009-06-06 Thread Marco Mangelsdorf
I'm seeing ~ $2.60/watt from a major Chinese manufacturer for a modest volume purchase. What are you all seeing as far as $/watt? marco Joel, Since late last year we've been stocking the Yingli 175w single-crystal modules. They seem dependable, haven't heard of any problems with them. Earlier in