Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled Re-visited

2009-10-23 Thread Nick Soleil
ma, CA 94953 Cell: 707-321-2937 Office: 707-789-9537 Fax:707-769-9037 From: Jeff Yago To: RE-wrenches Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 7:53:11 PM Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled Re-visited There have been some good advice related to battery bank sizin

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled Re-visited

2009-10-23 Thread toddcory
and the > battery bank is 48 volts 3500 AH > > --- On Tue, 10/20/09, Glenn Burt wrote: > > > From: Glenn Burt > > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled Re-visited > > To: "'RE-wrenches'" > > Date: Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 2:13 PM >

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled Re-visited

2009-10-22 Thread Phil Undercuffler
w Phil sent you ;-) I think there is a lot of opportunity to add power reliability and stability to traditional grid tie systems -- what we need is a way to do it easily and effectively. Here's to looking for a way! Phil Undercuffler Conergy > -- Forwarded message -- >

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled Re-visited

2009-10-21 Thread boB Gudgel
Jeff Yago wrote: There have been some good advice related to battery bank sizing and a better description of how Sunny Islands work with SunnyBoys, but I am afraid we are getting away from my original post that started this and that was: Since a battery based inverter has a battery charging se

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled Re-visited

2009-10-21 Thread Jeff Yago
There have been some good advice related to battery bank sizing and a better description of how Sunny Islands work with SunnyBoys, but I am afraid we are getting away from my original post that started this and that was: Since a battery based inverter has a battery charging section and all kinds

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled Re-visited

2009-10-21 Thread Darryl Thayer
urt > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled Re-visited > To: "'RE-wrenches'" > Date: Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 2:13 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SMA recently told me that the > recomme

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled Re-visited

2009-10-20 Thread Allan Sindelar
Phil, Good advice. Assuming 48V and a large system, what would you use as a diversion load and controller in this application? As I understand it, this would be a DC diversion load, such as a wind gennie air heater, that would be gradual, resistive, and noncritical for occasional use in this rare

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled Re-visited

2009-10-20 Thread Phil Undercuffler
t; > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: "Walt Ratterman" > To: , "'RE-wrenches'" < > re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> > Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:37:04 -0700 > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled Re-visited > > Glenn

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled Re-visited

2009-10-20 Thread Walt Ratterman
2:14 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled Re-visited SMA recently told me that the recommended Ah of the battery bank is related to the amount of PV and connected inverters. They recommended a 500Ah bank with a 5kW PV SB, and a 600Ah bank with a 6kW PV SB. 100Ah to 1

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled Re-visited

2009-10-20 Thread Glenn Burt
f Of Mark Frye Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 2:42 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled Re-visited Thanks Kent. And so I understand more clearly, in the case of 2 SIs as you describe, each SI has it's own battery bank, and the solar would be split between

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled Re-visited

2009-10-20 Thread Michael Welch
Behalf Of Jeff Yago Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:52 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled Re-visited it is my understanding that the Sunny Island coupled with Sunny Boys is able to taper charge in an AC coupled system as the 2 inverters are able to communicate with each other

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled Re-visited

2009-10-20 Thread Mark Frye
hes.org] On Behalf Of Kent Osterberg Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 11:10 AM To: glenn.b...@glbcc.com; RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled Re-visited In off-grid mode the Sunny Island uses frequency shift power control to reduce the output of the Sunny Boy inverters and thereby regulat

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled Re-visited

2009-10-20 Thread Kent Osterberg
: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Kirpal Khalsa Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:05 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled Re-visited   Greetings..it is my understanding that the Sunny Island coupl

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled Re-visited

2009-10-20 Thread Glenn Burt
ts.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Kirpal Khalsa Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:05 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled Re-visited Greetings..it is my understanding that the Sunny Island coupled with Sunny Boys is able to tap

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled Re-visited

2009-10-20 Thread Mark Frye
ar.com _ From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Yago Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:52 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled Re-visited it is my understanding that the Sunny Island couple

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled Re-visited

2009-10-20 Thread Jeff Yago
it is my understanding that the Sunny Island coupled with Sunny Boys is able to taper charge in an AC coupled system as the 2 inverters are able to communicate with each other and the Sunny Island alters the frequency input of the Sunny Boys and lowers the total output of the Sunny Boys to match th

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled Re-visited

2009-10-20 Thread Kirpal Khalsa
Greetings..it is my understanding that the Sunny Island coupled with Sunny Boys is able to taper charge in an AC coupled system as the 2 inverters are able to communicate with each other and the Sunny Island alters the frequency input of the Sunny Boys and lowers the total output of the Sunny B

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled Re-visited

2009-10-20 Thread Mick Abraham
Hi, All~ On an AC coupled system as Jeff describes, the "battery charge circuitry" on the battery based inverter is not even participating. A straight pure sine inverter...with no charger function built in...would also "charge" the battery if AC coupled to a SunnyBoy with no grid available. The "

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled Re-visited

2009-10-20 Thread Jeff Yago
We have completed several totally different AC coupled systems using different inverters, due to large ground mounted arrays that had to be located a great distance from inverter-battery-generator-grid BAS, which are working just fine even with the mis-match of inverter brands.  The SunnyBoy seems