Re: [RE-wrenches] generator tripping GFCI

2020-12-19 Thread Chris Worcester
It might be worth checking the brushes if it is an older unit. Chris Worcester  chris@solarwindworks.com530-448-9692Sent from my Samsung Galaxy s9. Original message From: William Miller Date: 12/19/20 6:30 PM (GMT-08:00) To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] generator t

Re: [RE-wrenches] generator tripping GFCI

2020-12-19 Thread William Miller
Friends: I have seen THD on the voltage waveform trip GFIs and AFCIs. The case where this happened was during gen run periods. AC to DC converters can be brutal in regards to generating distortion and sending it to loads. I am out in the shop away from the manuals, but check if these FX invert

Re: [RE-wrenches] generator tripping GFCI

2020-12-19 Thread Jay
Hi Ray I will have to triple check, but even if it’s yes. How does that explain the time differences? If it was a neutralground loop, then why not it tripping everything right away? That’s why I was thinking it’s related to the control board in the generator? Jay > On Dec 19, 2020, at 5:10

Re: [RE-wrenches] generator tripping GFCI

2020-12-19 Thread Kent Osterberg
Jay, Agree with Ray that two neutral ground bonds can cause strange behavior. But the timing near the end of the charge cycle makes me wonder if the issue is related to one inverter shutting down the charger before the other. The VFX 3648 charger mode is a terrible load and will cause weird o

Re: [RE-wrenches] generator tripping GFCI

2020-12-19 Thread Darryl Thayer
The way a GFCI operates is by comparing the line current and the neutral current inside the device. If some of the neutral current is returning through a ground circuit instead of the neutral the imbalance will trip the device. The generator neutral and the inverter neutral must have a common neu

Re: [RE-wrenches] generator tripping GFCI

2020-12-19 Thread Ray
Is it possible that neutral is bonded to ground in the generator?  I've found lots of multi-bonded neutrals over the years, and had it cause all sorts of weirdness. Ray Walters Remote Solar 303 505-8760 On 12/19/20 5:33 PM, jay wrote: HI All, I have a client with a older Kohler 8-10kw genera

[RE-wrenches] generator tripping GFCI

2020-12-19 Thread jay
HI All, I have a client with a older Kohler 8-10kw generator, VFX 3648 stacked inverters, newer rolls batteries. its been installed and operating normally for 10+ years. Customer had to upgrade the house for code, which involved installing GFCI outlets and GFCI breakers. Since then the GFI

Re: [RE-wrenches] Remote Alert and Bootstrapping on Sunny Island AC Coupled System-Follow up

2020-12-19 Thread Ray
Little Nerd Family, that's great.  Back on Topic:  I'm also in the midst of trying to care for a Sunny Island setup we inherited a few years ago.  Tump's info is invaluable and also explains why my adopted step system couldn't keep its AGMs alive for more than 4 years. (curtail charge rate at 7

Re: [RE-wrenches] Remote Alert and Bootstrapping on Sunny Island AC Coupled System-Follow up

2020-12-19 Thread Tump
William, good morning. I live off grid w/ these things please feel free to contact me off list. Without knowing your familiarity w/ the SMASI, I may be repeating things you already know. Anytime the SOC is above 70% your frequency is shifted to reduce array input, (German engineers) so this is p

[RE-wrenches] Remote Alert and Bootstrapping on Sunny Island AC Coupled System-Follow up

2020-12-19 Thread William Miller
Wrenches: I found some time to review the .evt and .log files from the primary Sunny Island inverter. Prior to 12/8/20 the system was running normally with a generator run averaging 6 hours about every other day. On 12/8 at 06:00 the system tried to start the generator. There was no indic