Re: [RE-wrenches] Hidden corrosion caused catastrophic battery system failure

2017-01-21 Thread Jerry Shafer
Wrenches I have been around batteries for many years and I have had poor battery construction issues and installation issues but in most cases, failures can be avoided by visual inspections and not the fire and forget that so many people that think maintenance free means. The trogan pic is a result

Re: [RE-wrenches] Hidden corrosion caused catastrophic battery system failure

2017-01-21 Thread Ray Walters
When I'm evaluating an old system, one thing I do is really yank on all the battery connections. If it turns, tighten it down, and in several cases, the cable just pulls loose from the connector. They are time consuming to do right. Cable has to be stripped long enough, the crimper needs to

Re: [RE-wrenches] Hidden corrosion caused catastrophic battery system failure

2017-01-21 Thread Dan Fink
Last weekend. 3-year old, 24v battery bank, series/parallel. 6v Trojan L-16 in an 8-battery bank, one battery on one string showing 4v. Negative end of string. Replaced the one upstream of it last summer, same problem. Aha! I say, and folks here on the Wrenches list (including me) complaining about

Re: [RE-wrenches] Hidden corrosion caused catastrophic battery system failure

2017-01-21 Thread Dave Palumbo
Hello Ray, Good thinking on the inverter failure part in all of this and thanks for sharing your experience with a smoking hot battery terminal. Good point on using the Vaseline with making the connections before using any gritty coating. Some good reminders/lessons on making good battery co

Re: [RE-wrenches] Hidden corrosion caused catastrophic battery system failure

2017-01-21 Thread Ray Walters
HI Dave; Based on the evidence, I might suspect a short in the inverter, or the inverter was feeding a heavy load when the melt down occurred. I can't see how a short at the battery would cause an inverter failure, unless the melted lead caused the polarity to be reversed, or created a positi

Re: [RE-wrenches] Hidden corrosion caused catastrophic battery system failure

2017-01-21 Thread cwarfel
Thanks Dave, This is all helpful. We do90% battery systems, and I need to emphasize periodic maintenance. This will help. Chris On 1/21/2017 10:52 AM, Dave Palumbo wrote: Hi Chris, I don't have any pictures myself, the Backwoods email included a photo of a corroded bolt and a clean assembly

Re: [RE-wrenches] Hidden corrosion caused catastrophic battery system failure

2017-01-21 Thread Dave Palumbo
Hi Chris, I don't have any pictures myself, the Backwoods email included a photo of a corroded bolt and a clean assembly which I've snipped and attached. Off the Wrenches list I have had a conversation with another wrench who shared his successful methods which I will share here. << The

Re: [RE-wrenches] Hidden corrosion caused catastrophic battery system failure

2017-01-21 Thread cwarfel
Hi David, do you have any pictures of this that could be shared? Chris On 1/20/2017 12:52 PM, Dave Palumbo wrote: Following is an entry from a Backwoods Solar email that I received today. I would like to share this as a teachable point for RE techs not familiar enough with proper battery ba